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We have a 2'x4' lay-in style fixture with the quick wire access plate. The bond screw for the fixture is located on this plate. After wiring and bonding this plate it snaps back into place. The electrical inspector looked at this when we were getting our ceiling inspection and said he had some concerns that if the plate became dislodged from the fixture it would no longer be bonded. We gave him the submittals of the fixture with all of the UL listings and thought it had satisfied him as he gave us our ceiling inspection.When we were getting our final for the building he states that he had thought about this some more and he was not going to give us our final inspection until we provide a bonding jumper from the access plate to the can of the fixtures.He instructs us that he wants us to drill and tap the can of the fixture and provide a green bonding screw.These fixtures are made by a major manufacturer. We contacted the manufacturer and were told they had sold hundreds of thousands of these fixtures
and this was the first time they had been questioned about this. This job had about 75 of these fixtures. We did what he wanted because we were up against a deadline and needed the final. My question is does he have any authority to do this?
 
IMO, and in NC if the product is listed then the ahj cannot turn it down. If your state approves a listing laboratory then I don't see how he can turn it down.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
IMO, and in NC if the product is listed then the ahj cannot turn it down. If your state approves a listing laboratory then I don't see how he can turn it down.
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This is something I would be looking into. If, as Dennis said, VA has approved the listing lab I would be sending the city/county a bill for the extra man hrs. it took to do what he wanted.
 
Is this the first time this guy ever saw such a thing??

It is listed as it is, and they have made (and listed) most of these type of fixtures this way for many years.

To do what he wants you to do is actually questionable. The fixture wall is not thick enough for two threads of engagement of your grounding screw, and unless you use hardware that will dig into the paint, you likely would need to remove paint to ensure good bonding.
 
ramIII said:
We have a 2'x4' lay-in style fixture with the quick wire access plate. The bond screw for the fixture is located on this plate. After wiring and bonding this plate it snaps back into place. The electrical inspector looked at this when we were getting our ceiling inspection and said he had some concerns that if the plate became dislodged from the fixture it would no longer be bonded. We gave him the submittals of the fixture with all of the UL listings and thought it had satisfied him as he gave us our ceiling inspection.When we were getting our final for the building he states that he had thought about this some more and he was not going to give us our final inspection until we provide a bonding jumper from the access plate to the can of the fixtures.He instructs us that he wants us to drill and tap the can of the fixture and provide a green bonding screw.These fixtures are made by a major manufacturer. We contacted the manufacturer and were told they had sold hundreds of thousands of these fixtures
and this was the first time they had been questioned about this. This job had about 75 of these fixtures. We did what he wanted because we were up against a deadline and needed the final. My question is does he have any authority to do this?
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Which county are you in?
 
ramIII said:
The electrical inspector looked at this when we were getting our ceiling inspection and said he had some concerns that if the plate became dislodged from the fixture it would no longer be bonded.
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That same logic could be applied to a bond screw, and then I guess you would have to cad-weld the bonding wire. :dunce:
 
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