Underground Medium Voltage Conductors - Ampacity Ratings

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minesh21

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Hi,

I have a project where I am splicing at a manhole and extending conductors to a new substation (medium voltage, 4160V). My question is in regards to the underground conductor ampacity ratings shown on Table 310.60(C)(77). I am running only two conduits and circuits together from the manhole to my new sub. So I am going to use the ampacities under the "three circuit" portion of the table. But this got me thinking...how do you apply this for a conductor that goes through multiple manholes and different duct configurations? The conductors I am splicing have come from a main substation upstream but has span through other manholes, splices and different duct bank configurations. So where exactly do I apply the ampacities? If I took the "worst case" from the upstream substation to my new substation, it would be near the upstream substation where there are up to 8 different conduits in one area. But this would cause my ampacity of 500 KCMIL conductors to be severely decreased. These conduits split up as the travel to downstream substations so I'm unsure what to do.
 
I forgot to add, when determining conduit fill using Table C.9 (PVC), what type of cable is typical? I keep seeing "EPR" for MV cables, but I don't see that in the NEC as an option to determine conduit fill..
 
Hi,

I have a project where I am splicing at a manhole and extending conductors to a new substation (medium voltage, 4160V). My question is in regards to the underground conductor ampacity ratings shown on Table 310.60(C)(77). I am running only two conduits and circuits together from the manhole to my new sub. So I am going to use the ampacities under the "three circuit" portion of the table. But this got me thinking...how do you apply this for a conductor that goes through multiple manholes and different duct configurations? The conductors I am splicing have come from a main substation upstream but has span through other manholes, splices and different duct bank configurations. So where exactly do I apply the ampacities? If I took the "worst case" from the upstream substation to my new substation, it would be near the upstream substation where there are up to 8 different conduits in one area. But this would cause my ampacity of 500 KCMIL conductors to be severely decreased. These conduits split up as the travel to downstream substations so I'm unsure what to do.

310.15(A)(2). Lowest value is used.
 
I forgot to add, when determining conduit fill using Table C.9 (PVC), what type of cable is typical? I keep seeing "EPR" for MV cables, but I don't see that in the NEC as an option to determine conduit fill..

C.9 is RMC.

Sch 40 or 80?

To my knowledge, Annex C, although not explicitly intended...is for 600V conductors and less. Considerations need to be made for shielded VS not and the like for MV cables. Reference the cutsheet for OD and then use Chapter 9 Table 4.
 
310.15(A)(2). Lowest value is used.

Follow up question. If I have (8) conduits in a duct bank, how do I determine ampacity? The NEC stops at 6 circuits. Do I have to perform underground calcs using the Neher McGrath calculation method? I have used this software in the past, but I'm wondering if there is a faster method than having to use software..
 
C.9 is RMC.

Sch 40 or 80?

To my knowledge, Annex C, although not explicitly intended...is for 600V conductors and less. Considerations need to be made for shielded VS not and the like for MV cables. Reference the cutsheet for OD and then use Chapter 9 Table 4.

Weird I am using the 2014 NEC and the C.9 is PVC schedule 80. What NEC you referencing?
 
Follow up question. If I have (8) conduits in a duct bank, how do I determine ampacity? The NEC stops at 6 circuits. Do I have to perform underground calcs using the Neher McGrath calculation method? I have used this software in the past, but I'm wondering if there is a faster method than having to use software..

To my knowledge, software is the fastest. Ampcalc or similar software.

Did you review Annex B? I haven’t reviewed specifically to see if it helps your application, but it is worth a browse.

Informative Annex B Application Information for Ampacity Calculation
 
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