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bjp_ne_elec

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Curious what the different areas require for an underground service. In NH, you need to run the service entrance conduit between meter socket and pole. and provide 10' of conduit up the pole. The POCO provides the wire - is the way I read the brochure. I know when I lived back in NY, the only thing the POCO did was provide the feed to the tails coming out of the weather head - EC/HO provided all conduit and cable.

Be curious what is required in the various areas that the poster in this forum live - mind sharing?

Also, when doing an underground, be curious how the various folks support the conduit between meter socket and where it elbows towards the POCO pole? I like to use painted unistrut painted to match the siding and unistrut clamps. Typically mount towards bottom of siding.

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We have it easy around here. We install the meter base and the podco does the rest. If I ran conduit down from the meter base I would use a standoff strap or a 2 hole strap.

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Dennis - you do have it easy. Compared to what was required in NY, NH is easier - but the ease means you don't do the work, and that's lost profit. Running conduit in a ditch isn't bad, as long as it's not raining when you're doing it, or as long as it didn't rain for a day or so prior to when you jump in the ditch :)
 
I have done my share of ditch work in my life and you can have it all. I will never dig another trench. If a trenchers is needed I make the builder take the responsibility and hire it out. I'm getting to old for that crap-- I got enough other things to do so not having that work makes me happy.:) :) :)

I guess I'm becoming a prima donna in my old age
 
Dennis - just want to be clear here - I wasn't signing up to dig or trench the ditch - that's what they make back hoes for. I'm fine running the PVC - but will run for the woods (at my age) if someone mentions 4" Rigid. Been there, done that - as Dana Carvey used to say (imitating the elder Bush) - "na gonna duh-it".
 
In MA the EC provides and installs the conduit and conductors if it is NStar or NGrid. Which is most locations. Some Municipal POCO's provide the conduit and/ or conductors. Wellesley, Shrewsbury to name a couple. They charge the customer heavily, though.
 
In Connecticut, we run 3" conduit with slip fitting at meter, we supply meter, install 1/4" pull rope, and also have to install steel sweep at pole...

As far a strapping, CL&P (POCO) requires 1 strap on the slip fitting ONLY, and I almost always use a minerallac...
 
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in ny customer provides all wire from house to pole and long enough to run up pole usually 30+ feet if you pipe it all the way you must provide a ground box near property line. reguardles of pipe or direct burrial you must run the first 10 ft up the pole and install the first 10 feet of u guard which you must also supply along with all the lag bolts to install u guard. to come out of meter pan i usually use a meter offset and offset right tight to the wall and usually use rigid pvc and pvc 2 hole strap th house
 
quogueelectric - who makes the meter offset that you refer to? That sounds like a nice way - as without it, you need some type of spacer - in which I have used unistrut.

Stickboy - do you have a pic of a minerallac? I've heard the term before, but can not remember what one looks like, or who makes it.

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Carlon makes them. They are the offset nipples I was referring to. I usethem if I have a 400 amp service with 2 exterior panels because the knockouts don't line up.
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bjp_ne_elec said:
quogueelectric - who makes the meter offset that you refer to? That sounds like a nice way - as without it, you need some type of spacer - in which I have used unistrut.

Stickboy - do you have a pic of a minerallac? I've heard the term before, but can not remember what one looks like, or who makes it.

Thanks
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They are made by Minerallac
 
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kbsparky said:
Why are you even dealing with a pole if all your lines are supposed to be underground :-?

Ever hear of a pad-mount? :grin:
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Yes I live near the end of the earth out on eastern long island. Unless it is a development most of the services are off a pole If it is a long distance from the pole you are almost allways better served to go underground to the pole I think you can only go 100 or 75 feet max or you have to provide a customer owned pole on the property which no one wants. Yes if there is a development or the area is designed for future underground service you use what we call rudd transformers for residential underground distribution xformers a little plastic loadbreak elbow with a service latteral and we will call it a day. We are not completely in the stone age.
 
Quoge, when the island starts falling in I'd appreciate a heads-up! What are the requirements for telephone / cable when you're installing U.G. service to a pole?
 
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