Matt.HH
Member
- Location
- New Holland, PA
- Occupation
- Power Generation
Hello, newbie here. I'm trying to comprehend grounding and bonding in an offgrid system involving parallel generators and/or inverters.
First of all, I flagged what I believe to be a distinct violation on a job our company did half a year ago: We installed a 190 kW and a 275 kW generator for parallel operation, with no POCO service present. The paralleling switchgear was a simple arrangement we built ourselves. (We are a UL891 shop.) It is not service entrance rated, so it was not equipped with an MBJ. The install tech bonded gen neutral and ground in the generators' respective breaker panels mounted on the units. The GEC lands on the ground bus in the switchboard and EGC's return to each generator. The inspector did not even comment on it. Since all the neutrals are solidly connected, that could result in potential objectionable current or harmonics circulating between the generators, not? I recommended removing that bonding jumper in one of the generators.
Now my question: Which sections apply to such a system? Personally, I'm of the opinion that we should be rating our switchboard for service equipment use and bonding N-G there. On the other hand, there is no "service" per the NEC 2023 definition. What would be the argument against a non-service-rated switchboard containing the MBJ?
The second and stickier scenario, concerning hybrid microgrids: Almost all the AHJs we have worked with require a N-G bond both at the inverter and at the generator. (Here again, no utility service.) They state that two separate power sources each need their own main bonding jumper. This would be true but for the fact that the inverters are combination inverter-chargers that do not isolate their input and output. Conversely, the N terminal is a single bus bar on which both the gen feed and outbound load feeders land their grounded conductors. Not a true SDS. I believe this arrangement would also be a parallel fault path. The install crews find the inspectors more friendly if they take the "yes man" approach, so they aren't about to argue. Thoughts?
To reiterate, I'm a new kid to the wonderful electrical world, not even an experienced electrician. Perhaps I'm missing the obvious.
First of all, I flagged what I believe to be a distinct violation on a job our company did half a year ago: We installed a 190 kW and a 275 kW generator for parallel operation, with no POCO service present. The paralleling switchgear was a simple arrangement we built ourselves. (We are a UL891 shop.) It is not service entrance rated, so it was not equipped with an MBJ. The install tech bonded gen neutral and ground in the generators' respective breaker panels mounted on the units. The GEC lands on the ground bus in the switchboard and EGC's return to each generator. The inspector did not even comment on it. Since all the neutrals are solidly connected, that could result in potential objectionable current or harmonics circulating between the generators, not? I recommended removing that bonding jumper in one of the generators.
Now my question: Which sections apply to such a system? Personally, I'm of the opinion that we should be rating our switchboard for service equipment use and bonding N-G there. On the other hand, there is no "service" per the NEC 2023 definition. What would be the argument against a non-service-rated switchboard containing the MBJ?
The second and stickier scenario, concerning hybrid microgrids: Almost all the AHJs we have worked with require a N-G bond both at the inverter and at the generator. (Here again, no utility service.) They state that two separate power sources each need their own main bonding jumper. This would be true but for the fact that the inverters are combination inverter-chargers that do not isolate their input and output. Conversely, the N terminal is a single bus bar on which both the gen feed and outbound load feeders land their grounded conductors. Not a true SDS. I believe this arrangement would also be a parallel fault path. The install crews find the inspectors more friendly if they take the "yes man" approach, so they aren't about to argue. Thoughts?
To reiterate, I'm a new kid to the wonderful electrical world, not even an experienced electrician. Perhaps I'm missing the obvious.