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Dennis Alwon

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Ryan Jackson is doing webinars. He had some interesting info on some nm cable with a 14 gauge wire as the ungrounded conductor in a 12/2 cable. I think someone has mentioned that before.

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Dennis Alwon said:
Ryan Jackson is doing webinars. He had some interesting info on some nm cable with a 14 gauge wire as the ungrounded conductor in a 12/2 cable. I think someone has mentioned that before.

Start listening at 2:45 sec

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Don't remember a Ryan Jackson, did he use a different forum name?
 
He was here on and off when I first joined in 2006. He worked for Mike Holt for awhile, I believe. I think he was the one that got the running boards for nm cable in crawl spaces. I hated that rule although it didn't really affect us much since we square everything off anyway. Also NC amended that rule.
 
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I am sure guys like Roger, Charlie, Iwire and others remember him well.
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I remember him as a moderator and active contributor to the forum, and as an employee of Mike Holt Enterprises. I met him once, more than a decade ago. I believe it was one of the times that Mike brought one of his seminars to Seattle.
 
I remember Ryan Jackson well, as a contributor here, for his interest in what the enforceable written words of the NEC actually say, vs. what various people have come to agree that it says. He has always been a "natural" in the application of "Charlie's Rule". Ryan's thread "Cords" Above Ceilings on the difference between "flexible cords" and "cord sets and power supply cords" is a great example of his approach to teasing out the truth of the NEC.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
Ryan Jackson is doing webinars. He had some interesting info on some nm cable with a 14 gauge wire as the ungrounded conductor in a 12/2 cable.
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That is, indeed, interesting news about #14 hot conductor manufactured into a brand-new, plain-old 12/2 NMB cable.

I'll be very interested in what the investigation reveals of how much was (is) made and where it went.
 
Dennis Alwon said:
He was here on and off when I first joined in 2006. He worked for Mike Holt for awhile, I believe. I think he was the one that got the running boards for nm cable in crawl spaces. I hated that rule although it didn't really affect us much since we square everything off anyway. Also NC amended that rule.
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Yes, that was him. That change was one of the tipping points that moved me into 98% cynicism about the NEC. It was totally stupid, illogical and did nothing to make things safer. The justification had nothing to do with safety, it was to bring "consistency into the code" by making some of the same requirements for basements apply to crawl spaces because we all know how alike basements and crawl spaces are.
 
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Yes, that was him. That change was one of the tipping points that moved me into 98% cynicism about the NEC. It was totally stupid, illogical and did nothing to make things safer. The justification had nothing to do with safety, it was to bring "consistency into the code" by making some of the same requirements for basements apply to crawl spaces because we all know how alike basements and crawl spaces are.
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I even heard Mark Ode talk about it being ridiculous.

Roger
 
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