Use of Proximity Voltage Detectors for Confirming Absence of Hazardous Energy

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Steve Merrick

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I have a question regarding the use of proximity voltage detectors for performing absence of hazardous energy level testing, particularly related to medium voltage systems.

While I have a fair amount of experience applying 70e requirements in industrial facility and factory environments operating at 480V and below, I am inexperienced on higher voltage industrial systems. I?m hoping some of you gurus of smart can help me out.

My understanding is that the use of proximity voltage detectors for performing safe-to-work voltage is strongly discouraged. There are just too many chances for false positives and - heaven forbid - false negatives with a proximity voltage detector; rather, a direct contact style voltmeter should normally be used to verify absence of voltage less than 50 volts before performing work.

I am presently working on a construction project where we are performing hands-on work on 25kV equipment and our normal 1000 volt rated Fluke multimeters are not suitable for zero-energy voltage testing at those levels.

We have been using a hotstick-mounted Salisbury high-voltage proximity detector as our sole means of verifying a circuit is deenergized before working on the circuit. This proximity detector is not rated to detect voltages below 240V, nor can it read DC voltages which might be present from polarized insulation, charged capacitors, etc. It has been suggested that we use the prox to verify the circuit is deenergized at less than 240 volts and then using a Fluke as the final safe-to-work check, however that approach makes me uncomfortable.

Simply applying a safety ground is not an option available to us either. Applying a safety ground would require donning of appropriate PPE levels. Unfortunately, the consultants who performed the arc-flash study labeled the equipment, ?DANGER! NO SAFE PPE EXISTS. ENERGIZED WORK PROHIBITED. No FR Category Found.?

I?ve been having a hard time finding a direct contact high voltage meter that can verify absence of voltage to less than 50 volts. What is the best practice in this situation?
 

jim dungar

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My company relies on Salisbury "pumpkin head" proximity voltage testers which have a "test" procedure.

On a different note: have your consultant perform the arc flash incident energy calculation at a distance greater than the standard 36" working distance. I have found that the extra distance provided by a hot stick tool often moves us to an acceptable PPE level (i.e. lower than Dangerous).
 

richxtlc

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have your consultants do another analysis at the distance of the hot stick. also in order to perform a zero voltage check you must wear the appropriate ppe including arc flash ppe. You are correct as to having to wear the arc flash ppe when applying protective grounds, as the circuit is still considered alive until all the grounds have been applied. Then and only then is it safe to remove the arc flash ppe.
 

Steve Merrick

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...But how do we verify less than 50 volts?

...But how do we verify less than 50 volts?

That is really the crux of my dilemma. Utilities have the luxury under the NESC and OSHA 1910.269 to verify a line is deenergized using a proximity voltage detector and then apply safety grounds. NFPA 70e is usually interpreted to require verification of "absense of hazardous energy levels" less than 50 volts. High-voltage proximity voltage detectors and phasing voltmeters are only rated for 1 percent accuracy, so a 25 kV rated voltmeter cannot relaibly detect voltages less than 250 volts. I confirmed this with engineers with Fluke and Hubbell/AB Chance.

Now that I've looked into it more closely I think verification of voltage levels less than 50V on an isolated circuit may be an overly-conservative interpretation. NFPA 70e only requires isolation and verification that the circuit is deenergized. The 50 volt requirement is invoked only for circuits "operating at 50 volts or more." We are "operating" at 25kV, but once we have opened the circuit disconnects, verified that the circuit is deenergized using our 25kV rated voltmeter, and have installed safety grounds, the circuit will be considered "electrically safe."

I am comfortable with this logic, and unless any of you have any other discussion I will consider this issue settled.

Thanks for your input!

Steve Merrick, PE
 
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LarryFine

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Steve Merrick said:
Simply applying a safety ground is not an option available to us either. Applying a safety ground would require donning of appropriate PPE levels. Unfortunately, the consultants who performed the arc-flash study labeled the equipment, “DANGER! NO SAFE PPE EXISTS. ENERGIZED WORK PROHIBITED. No FR Category Found.”
So, ask the consultants for their prescribed method for assuring such de-energization.

I can't believe the rules state you must de-energize, but are not allowed to confirm it.
 

zog

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LarryFine said:
So, ask the consultants for their prescribed method for assuring such de-energization.

I can't believe the rules state you must de-energize, but are not allowed to confirm it.

Actually, taken literally, thats what the 70E says, it is a "loophole" , 2009 70E will adress this.
 
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