Used Equipment

[Keith777]

There are times when a product is no longer available, but the product is available as "new old stock" or "reconditioned". Warranties on these are very limited, which means we have all of the liability if we were to use the product. I have looked and can not find anything in the NEC that addresses new or used equipment. Does anyone where this may be addressed? Perhaps NEMA? Appreciate any guidance here.

 

[tom baker]

There is a section in the NEC that addresses used equipment, try looking in article 110

 

[jim dungar]

Buyer beware.
Much 'new' old stock has not been stored correctly over the years resulting in a lot of internal corrosion. Reconditioning is not possible on miniature molded case breakers, like those in loadcenters, so 'reconditioned' often means the outside was washed.

This is why language was added to the NEC.

 

[letgomywago]

New old stock is supposed to be just that. I don't have any issue installing that so long as I tell the customer. They're usually happy I'm keeping their stuff alive a bit longer while they try to get a plan together to do a total replacement.

 

[tom baker]

See section 110.21 a 2 reconditioned equipment

 

[electrofelon]

But note "reconditioned" is a specific thing. "Used" and "new old stock" is typically not reconditioned for the purposes of 110.11(A)(2)

 

[Jraef]

I've seen a breaker broker "recondition" a molded case breaker. it consisted of a rag with some Armorall sprayed on it, wiped around on the surfaces to make it look shiny and new.

 

[Joethemechanic]

I've seen a breaker broker "recondition" a molded case breaker. it consisted of a rag with some Armorall sprayed on it, wiped around on the surfaces to make it look shiny and new.

I don't think the Armorall would hurt the case

 

[norcal]

I've seen a breaker broker "recondition" a molded case breaker. it consisted of a rag with some Armorall sprayed on it, wiped around on the surfaces to make it look shiny and new.

My idea was they wiped the case with a damp rag for the exhaustive reconditioning process.

 

[GoldDigger]

My idea was they wiped the case with a damp rag for the exhaustive reconditioning process.

No, a damp rag is just cleaning. You need the ArmorAll for it to count as reconditioning. ArmorAll considers their product a surface reconditioner.

 

[jim dungar]

The ArmorAll also gives it the new breaker smell.

 

[Joethemechanic]

We had a really big breaker here



Bus it got so run down that Armorall wouldn't save it