Utility Bill
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luckylerado
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- Lake of the Ozarks
They would need information from the loads in order to show a power factor calculation of any value.
hbendillo
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- South carolina
That depends on what type of meter is being used. Look at the bill to see if it show a demand which they usually give in KVA I think so they can calculate demand charges where they apply. I think some give both KW and KVA demand which would give you the power factor.
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- Electrical Engineer
If you mean "is the kW demand INCLUSIVE of power factor", then yes, by definition it has to be. kW always includes PF, without it, it would be kVA.
If you meant "does the kW demand SHOW power factor", then no.
If you meant "does the kW demand SHOW power factor", then no.
Iron_Ben
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- Lancaster, PA
Most utilities bill on KW demand, some on KVA. If the bill indicates max KW as you say and that is what your customer is billed on (we used to charge $10/KW), the pf is irrelevant *unless* it's so poor as to trigger a low pf penalty. Our penalty kicked in if your power factor was less than 0.9. However it was so small that I never saw an industrial customer that could install PF correction capacitors with a reasonable pay back. It was always cheaper to pay the penalty.
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