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Vacon NX drive

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Robertaston

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I have a Vacon NX drive running a top drive motor. I keep getting 2 faults IGBT temp and Overcurrent. It’s never on the same phase. The motor IR readings are 3.5Mohms and the drive has been changed for a known good one. All cables have been checked too.
Each time I attempt to do an identification run this also fails.
Any ideas anyone the location is nigeria so it’s pretty hot and humid and the rig has been stacked for 18 months without any expats on board or senior personnel
 

Besoeker3

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We used UK Vacon drives with no relabel issues. I personally knew them but that was a few years ago. Anyway...................if this helps
TEL: 01455 251610 | 24HRS: 0844 335 1724
 

paulengr

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Both of your trips and the nonspecific location point to excessive current which looks more like overload. Can you turn the motor by hand? Did you check for mechanical issues? When it does run is your currentr at maximum?

Auto tune doesn’t always work. If there is a filter (reactor) in the output most drives fail to tune. It also doesn’t do well on deep bar or double cage rotors (high starting torque). The math won’t converge. .

Often you can bypass filters and get most of the tuning done that way. A trick is to bypass and do “full” auto tune. Then reconnect and do IR drop only since that should always work. You can also calculate most of the settings from the motor manufacturers data sheet or worst case use IEEE 112 procedure.

Finally if performance is acceptable or for testing just switch to V/Hz mode. This mode works “out of the box even without tuning. The only nice to have parameter is IR drop that you can measure with a multimeter.

Keep in mind what is happening. In V/Hz (scalar) mode the VFD generates voltages with NO feedback or minimal feedback in “compensated” modes. It adjusts the voltage up a few percent for IR drop but that’s it. It is “stupid”. That’s why this mode may lack tight speed control but nearly always works. In vector modes the drive is estimating speed and torque by reading the current and optionally an encoder. It needs to accurately model the motor which is where auto tuning comes in. Also vector mode can give you trouble if the motor gets excessively hot. If this happens the tuning is no longer accurate, particularly IR drop. It can be enough to affect performance of vector mode. If this happens you may have to use an encoder since there is much less “guessing” in that mode. RPM is known and the drive only has to distinguish torque vs flux and not very accurately.
 

synchro

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Probably a long shot, but if you have a dV/dt or sine wave filter after the drive make sure that it's connected correctly.
 

Jraef

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Excessive cable capacitance can get in the way of a successful ID Run routine. After sitting for a long time, water may have infiktrated the conduit and changed the capacitance in the motor leads.
 

Besoeker3

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Excessive cable capacitance can get in the way of a successful ID Run routine. After sitting for a long time, water may have infiktrated the conduit and changed the capacitance in the motor leads.
If it is other countries we wouldn't use conduit. Mostly we would SWPVC.
 
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