Wednestday STV

[480sparky]

Q: How many hacks does it take to truly create a fire and electrocution hazard?

Today's STV pix: (Note, this is exactly how I found it, so no one gets the "Missing cover" answer as a 'gimme'. Since there's no cover, I have absolutely no idea what brand of panel this is.)

 

[Hutch708]

Are there 3 wires under the main breaker lugs??

 

[480sparky]

Are there 3 wires under the main breaker lugs??

Yep. Each side is triple-tapped.

 

[LarryFine]

Q: How many hacks does it take to truly create a fire and electrocution hazard?

One really talented one. :roll:

Since there's no cover, I have absolutely no idea what brand of panel this is.

It might be imprinted on the main-breaker case.

 

[LarryFine]

Yep. Each side is triple-tapped.

Okay, three really talented hacks.


Added: Okay, I'll settle for two. The original install may have been okay.

 

[chris kennedy]

Since there's no cover, I have absolutely no idea what brand of panel this is.)

Looks like a Square D neutral bar.

 

[ceb58]

It looks like the old Gould panels.
It has a cover, close the cabinet door

 

[chris kennedy]

It looks like the old Gould panels.

After further review..

Yep, look at the cover screw hole placement.

 

[peter d]

I worked on one of these panels just the other day. It is the only panel I have ever seen with an inverted main breaker (down is on, up is off). It's an Arrow-Hart/Murray.

 

[RUWired]

It looks like a piece of UF spliced onto romex in the right side of the panel.

 

[480sparky]

It looks like a piece of UF spliced onto romex in the right side of the panel.

Not spliced... just sleeved with a showrt piece of NM sheath.

 

[LarryFine]

It is the only panel I have ever seen with an inverted main breaker.

It's just a back-fed 2-pole breaker.

 

[Cow]

Did they call you to fix all this stuff 480?

 

[480sparky]

Did they call you to fix all this stuff 480?

Yes.

 

[norcal]

Q: How many hacks does it take to truly create a fire and electrocution hazard?

Today's STV pix: (Note, this is exactly how I found it, so no one gets the "Missing cover" answer as a 'gimme'. Since there's no cover, I have absolutely no idea what brand of panel this is.)

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The panel is a Murray POS, they are the only one who had the reverse handle on the main so "on" was up when the stabs were on the bottom & the lugs on top of the circuit breaker.

 

[Cow]

Yes.

Let's see some "after" pics!

:smile:

 

[iwire]

It's just a back-fed 2-pole breaker.

Uh yeah, but it is designed to be the main, those bus tabs are there for a reason. :smile:

 

[480sparky]

Let's see some "after" pics!

:smile:

How about a movie instead?

 

[peter d]

It's just a back-fed 2-pole breaker.

Well duh.

It's also a factory made NEC violation.

 

[480sparky]

....It's also a factory made NEC violation.

How so?