Wet bar area
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gregoryelectricinc
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Re: Wet bar area
Rich, I can't think of anything in the NEC that would prevent you from using one circuit as you described. Bad idea though, in my opinion. Chack the load for the microwave. you will likely find it to be in the neighborhood of 13 amps. Add ths to the countertop equipment such as blenders, popcorn machines, etc. A dedicated circuit for the microwave sounds like a better idea.
Rich, I can't think of anything in the NEC that would prevent you from using one circuit as you described. Bad idea though, in my opinion. Chack the load for the microwave. you will likely find it to be in the neighborhood of 13 amps. Add ths to the countertop equipment such as blenders, popcorn machines, etc. A dedicated circuit for the microwave sounds like a better idea.
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bthielen
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Re: Wet bar area
Kitchen or basement wet bar...it's still a small appliance circuit as described in article 210-52 is it not? Whether prohibited or not, does it matter? If it's a bad idea, how can one justify NOT providing an isolated circuit for the microwave when its location is known. Refer to the NEC topic: microwave circuits, for more discussion.
Bob
Kitchen or basement wet bar...it's still a small appliance circuit as described in article 210-52 is it not? Whether prohibited or not, does it matter? If it's a bad idea, how can one justify NOT providing an isolated circuit for the microwave when its location is known. Refer to the NEC topic: microwave circuits, for more discussion.
Bob
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If the microwave unit draws more than 1200 watts total then it cannot be connected to the 20 ampere branch circuit that serves other outlets. I base that assertion on section 210.23 of the US NEC.
210.23 Permissible Loads.
In no case shall the load exceed the branch-circuit ampere rating. An individual branch circuit shall be permitted to supply any load for which it is rated. A branch circuit supplying two or more outlets or receptacles shall supply only the loads specified according to its size as specified in 210.23(A) through (D) and as summarized in 210.24 and Table 210.24.
(A) 15- and 20-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 15- or 20-ampere branch circuit shall be permitted to supply lighting units or other utilization equipment, or a combination of both, and shall comply with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2).
Exception: The small appliance branch circuits, laundry branch circuits, and bathroom branch circuits required in a dwelling unit(s) by 210.11(C)(1), (2), and (3) shall supply only the receptacle outlets specified in that section.
Section 210.23(A) permits a 15- or 20-ampere branch circuit for lighting to also supply utilization equipment fastened in place, such as an air conditioner. The equipment load must not exceed 50 percent of the branch-circuit ampere rating (7.5 amperes on a 15-ampere circuit and 10 amperes on a 20-ampere circuit). However, according to 210.52(B), such fastened-in-place equipment is not permitted on the small-appliance branch circuits required in the kitchen, dining room, and so on.
(2) Utilization Equipment Fastened in Place. The total rating of utilization equipment fastened in place, other than luminaires (lighting fixtures), shall not exceed 50 percent of the branch-circuit ampere rating where lighting units, cord-and-plug-connected utilization equipment not fastened in place, or both, are also supplied.
I hope that helps.
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Tom
If the microwave unit draws more than 1200 watts total then it cannot be connected to the 20 ampere branch circuit that serves other outlets. I base that assertion on section 210.23 of the US NEC.
210.23 Permissible Loads.
In no case shall the load exceed the branch-circuit ampere rating. An individual branch circuit shall be permitted to supply any load for which it is rated. A branch circuit supplying two or more outlets or receptacles shall supply only the loads specified according to its size as specified in 210.23(A) through (D) and as summarized in 210.24 and Table 210.24.
(A) 15- and 20-Ampere Branch Circuits. A 15- or 20-ampere branch circuit shall be permitted to supply lighting units or other utilization equipment, or a combination of both, and shall comply with 210.23(A)(1) and (A)(2).
Exception: The small appliance branch circuits, laundry branch circuits, and bathroom branch circuits required in a dwelling unit(s) by 210.11(C)(1), (2), and (3) shall supply only the receptacle outlets specified in that section.
Section 210.23(A) permits a 15- or 20-ampere branch circuit for lighting to also supply utilization equipment fastened in place, such as an air conditioner. The equipment load must not exceed 50 percent of the branch-circuit ampere rating (7.5 amperes on a 15-ampere circuit and 10 amperes on a 20-ampere circuit). However, according to 210.52(B), such fastened-in-place equipment is not permitted on the small-appliance branch circuits required in the kitchen, dining room, and so on.
(2) Utilization Equipment Fastened in Place. The total rating of utilization equipment fastened in place, other than luminaires (lighting fixtures), shall not exceed 50 percent of the branch-circuit ampere rating where lighting units, cord-and-plug-connected utilization equipment not fastened in place, or both, are also supplied.
I hope that helps.
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Tom
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