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not what I would do but may not be a violation.........
not what I would do but may not be a violation.
In my mind there's no question that's a wet location. Can't quote section off the top of my head, but it's in the 'uses not permitted' section of the NM section in Chapter 3.
Yes. If the floor above didn't allow water to pass through it may only be a damp location. I have similar covered patio with a patio below it - both open to elements on the sides. We get those "horizontal rains" at times and all of the floor gets wet during some of those events. The floor is designed to drain water between flooring members.I'm actually hoping this is a violation, for once.
Thank you- I think I know what you are referring to. But ultimately the argument would have to go down to what is a wet location.
That is definitely a wet location. I can see sunlight coming through some of the deck boards. I can see the drip patterns on the joists. NM is not allowed in a wet location. I don't think that Carlon box is wet location rated either.
look @ the top picture. Not a wet location IMOThat is definitely a wet location. I can see sunlight coming through some of the deck boards. I can see the drip patterns on the joists. NM is not allowed in a wet location. I don't think that Carlon box is wet location rated either.
Treated lumber will do that even if it never gets any wetter than what the lumber is when first installed.Thank you for all the replies! The horizontal rain theory very likely makes this a wet location. As is you can see what looks like rust on the staples.
If flooring above were a type that isn't made to drain through the floor, I would think you might be able to say that, but it likely does drain through the seams and therefore is likely to get water through it at times. If upper porch were completely enclosed, you would be one step closer to being able to call it dry location above that floor.look @ the top picture. Not a wet location IMO
" Location, Wet. ..............; and in unprotected locations exposed to weather.
...The floor is designed to drain water between flooring members.
Location, Damp. Locations protected from weather and not
subject to saturation with water or other liquids but subject to
moderate degrees of moisture. (CMP-1)
Informational Note: Examples of such locations include partially
protected locations under canopies, marquees, roofed open
porches, and like locations, and interior locations subject to
moderate degrees of moisture, such as some basements, some
barns, and some cold-storage warehouses.