What height kit. counter top rec's?

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patricknola

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Guys, I'm doing a whole home remodel. The plans don't give a height for the new kitchen receptacles. The old ones are 42" aff and the g.c. keeps telling me that "should be fine". I've seen jobs where a back splash messes up the receptacles height. What is the usual height?
 
We always did 43" off the subfloor or off the finished floor. I also install my switches at that height also so it is nice and linear. By the way, if the floors aren't level you may think about getting a transit and shooting the receptacle height so they are all the same distance off the counter. I assume they will level the counters.
 
What ever height you choose I always use a laser to be sure they are on the money, particularly if there is a tile back splash or boxes are in close proximity to each other.
 
I use the cabinet layout plan show uppers and base cabs on the wall with blue tape then verify all conditions
 
I try for 46 to center and try to get all devices at same around the space Switches etc. I too like the laser level to line up all boxes. Regardless of preference the code does have a requirement, so knowing finished height of countertop is important.

(2023 NEC) 210.52(C)(3)(1)
(3) Receptacle Outlet Location.
Receptacle outlets shall be located in one or more of the following:
(1)On or above, but not more than 500 mm (20 in.) above, a countertop or work surface

Also a work surface that might be placed lower than "normal" for ADA compliance in specific installation the above can force you to put it lower over the countertop/work surface than the light switches not at the countertop.

Nothing worse that getting everything installed and have to go back and move because someone decided to or to level the counter ended up higher than expected (been there). Or design changes from a stone counter to a Formica with integrated backsplash.
How many have come back after rough-in to find a full height cab covering the receptacle location or the tiler had covered the box location without making full cutout and tile was a surprise because not part of original plan and now box is recessed?
 
Fred B said:
I try for 46 to center and try to get all devices at same around the space Switches etc. I too like the laser level to line up all boxes. Regardless of preference the code does have a requirement, so knowing finished height of countertop is important.

(2023 NEC) 210.52(C)(3)(1)
(3) Receptacle Outlet Location.
Receptacle outlets shall be located in one or more of the following:
(1)On or above, but not more than 500 mm (20 in.) above, a countertop or work surface

Also a work surface that might be placed lower than "normal" for ADA compliance in specific installation the above can force you to put it lower over the countertop/work surface than the light switches not at the countertop.
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IIRC, the reach range for ADA is not lower than 18" and not higher than 48".

Ron
 
rc/retired said:
IIRC, the reach range for ADA is not lower than 18" and not higher than 48".

Ron
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Does ADA even apply to receptacles above counter top and 24"+ from front edge of counter? (I believe) ADA won't disallow them but will require additional receptacles at the front end and below the countertop.
 
kwired said:
Does ADA even apply to receptacles above counter top and 24"+ from front edge of counter? (I believe) ADA won't disallow them but will require additional receptacles at the front end and below the countertop.
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This is weird. ADA doesn't, or didn't when I was inspecting, require receptacles to be below the countertops.
However, they do require front controls on ranges, washers and dryers.
Just to be clear, I am referring to residential. Commercial has its own rules.

Ron
 
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