What would you do???

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76nemo

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Ogdensburg, NY
Poll, maybe?

I have an upgrade to do, and the planner already gave me the service request. The only note added was to raise the attachment point so it can't be touched if exiting window onto porch roof.

Problem is,.... is that the attachment point is within 3' of an upstairs window on the houses face of the street. To be exact, the attachment point is 14" left and 18" above one upstairs window. I could raise the attachment point to the peak of the street face side of the house and the drip loop would still be within 36' from the window. I would like to move the attachment to the east side of the house to meet NEC clearance issues, but the POCO would have to move their tap, and I don't want to have them do extra work not deemed by their standard. If I raised the attachment point on the street face side to the roofs peak, one could still jump onto the line in a frantic in the midst of a fire. I know it's ultimately their call, but I also have a standard, yet want to stay on their good side:cool: I am new here to construction.

Their tap could not reach the east side without rubbing on the corner of the house, therefore, the utility would have to redo their tap to the overhead.

I am pretty bothered and confused on what to do in this scenario. I am all about safety even if there is only one chance in a million it could ever happen.

Address this, and worry about stepping on some unwanted toes, or let it ride and be VERY unsatisfied with it? I am bothered by this.

Would you be??? What would you do:-?
 

nakulak

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you don't have much to gain by putting in something that could ultimately be a liability issue for you later on. If you are concerned about safety, raise the issue, do the right thing, especially if you have nothing to gain otherwise.
 
76nemo said:
Poll, maybe?

I have an upgrade to do, and the planner already gave me the service request. The only note added was to raise the attachment point so it can't be touched if exiting window onto porch roof.

Problem is,.... is that the attachment point is within 3' of an upstairs window on the houses face of the street. To be exact, the attachment point is 14" left and 18" above one upstairs window. I could raise the attachment point to the peak of the street face side of the house and the drip loop would still be within 36' from the window. I would like to move the attachment to the east side of the house to meet NEC clearance issues, but the POCO would have to move their tap, and I don't want to have them do extra work not deemed by their standard. If I raised the attachment point on the street face side to the roofs peak, one could still jump onto the line in a frantic in the midst of a fire. I know it's ultimately their call, but I also have a standard, yet want to stay on their good side:cool: I am new here to construction.

Their tap could not reach the east side without rubbing on the corner of the house, therefore, the utility would have to redo their tap to the overhead.

I am pretty bothered and confused on what to do in this scenario. I am all about safety even if there is only one chance in a million it could ever happen.

Address this, and worry about stepping on some unwanted toes, or let it ride and be VERY unsatisfied with it? I am bothered by this.

Would you be??? What would you do:-?

18 inches above a window is code compliant. If I am reading your post correctly, you will be code compliant, as the measurement is not solely 36 inches from the window.

Just be aware that some POCO's have a 3 foot radius around the entire window, including above the window.
 

ultramegabob

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Location
Indiana
Pierre C Belarge said:
18 inches above a window is code compliant. If I am reading your post correctly, you will be code compliant, as the measurement is not solely 36 inches from the window.

Just be aware that some POCO's have a 3 foot radius around the entire window, including above the window.


three feet from edge of window in my area.
 

quogueelectric

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Location
new york
I would request a midspan tap from poco and just add it to the bill with approval of course. It is not my fault there is no compliant place to land this thing why should I sweat it??
 

76nemo

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Location
Ogdensburg, NY
quogueelectric said:
I would request a midspan tap from poco and just add it to the bill with approval of course. It is not my fault there is no compliant place to land this thing why should I sweat it??

My sweat is that the POCO planner says it's placement can be 12" higher and will be compliant. The way the porch roof is, you'd still be able to easily grab onto the drip loop. The roof's peak is only 20" higher than the attachment now. With a loop, she would still be in a reach distance. I don't want that, not at all.

I don't want to question the planner, but I guess it is inevitable. SAFETY FIRST!!!!!

BTW quoque, their new tap doesn't cost the HO a dime here. I really don't know the AHJ, we haven't formally met yet. If I have to do construction to make ends meet, the last thing I need is a p*ssed off inspector!!!!
 

LarryFine

Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
Location
Henrico County, VA
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Electrical Contractor
76nemo said:
Problem is,.... is that the attachment point is within 3' of an upstairs window on the houses face of the street. To be exact, the attachment point is 14" left and 18" above one upstairs window. I could raise the attachment point to the peak of the street face side of the house and the drip loop would still be within 36' from the window.

What would you do:-?
I would read the exception to 230.9(A). ('02 NEC)
 
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