When to count neutral conductors?

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There is a debate on when do you count neutral conductors as current carrying conductors,as relating too derating in raceways.
 
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You count every neutral. If it is a true neutral, then it carries unbalanced current. Therefore, being current carrying.
 
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Originally posted by flip:
You count every neutral. If it is a true neutral, then it carries unbalanced current. Therefore, being current carrying.
Flip, this is actually the opposite of when you would count it. (barring harmonic issues)

As Bryan points out, read 310.15(A)(4).

Roger
 
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(4) Neutral Conductor.
(a) A neutral conductor that carries only the unbalanced current from other conductors of the same circuit shall not be required to be counted when applying the provisions of 310.15(B)(2)(a).
(b) In a 3-wire circuit consisting of two phase wires and the neutral of a 4-wire, 3-phase, wye-connected system, a common conductor carries approximately the same current as the line-to-neutral load currents of the other conductors and shall be counted when applying the provisions of 310.15(B)(2)(a).
(c) On a 4-wire, 3-phase wye circuit where the major portion of the load consists of nonlinear loads, harmonic currents are present in the neutral conductor; the neutral shall therefore be considered a current-carrying conductor.
 
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Exuse my ignorance but that tells me that bundling of 5 2 wire cable assys. isnt a violation since derating occurs when there you use 3 wire assys or greater #`s of conductors.
 
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