Whip conductors

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mbrooke said:
Whats the correct way to splice these conductors to #10?
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Those look like fairly specialized equipment termination. What's it for?

A lot depends on how professional you want the end result. I don't know of any particular termination receiver for that type of pin connector, i.e. 3-wire crimp and at least a twin-barrel pin. Almost look like they are made for insertion into one side of an 'amphenol' connector.

The easiest, and the most typical for the field electricain is to just cut off the crimps, strip the wires back, and use wire nuts. The more professional engineered way is to provide a terminal junction box with DIN rail terminal blocks having spring-loaded terminals, rated for the voltage and current of course.
 
Smart $ said:
Those look like fairly specialized equipment termination. What's it for?

A lot depends on how professional you want the end result. I don't know of any particular termination receiver for that type of pin connector, i.e. 3-wire crimp and at least a twin-barrel pin. Almost look like they are made for insertion into one side of an 'amphenol' connector.

The easiest, and the most typical for the field electricain is to just cut off the crimps, strip the wires back, and use wire nuts. The more professional engineered way is to provide a terminal junction box with DIN rail terminal blocks having spring-loaded terminals, rated for the voltage and current of course.
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Honestly? A cook top :D:lol: But I've never seen anything like that, its always stripped ends. I think you are right about a DIN rail type setup being the intention, but in all honesty I've never seen that in residential or basic commercial.
 
mbrooke said:
Honestly? A cook top :D:lol: But I've never seen anything like that, its always stripped ends. I think you are right about a DIN rail type setup being the intention, but in all honesty I've never seen that in residential or basic commercial.
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Doesn't have to be DIN rail. You might be able to find a 3-position or more pressure plate terminal board.

Is that cooktop have a built-in-oven mate? As I said, those crimp pins look like ones that are typically inserted into an 'amphenol' connector. For selling as a standalone unit, the factory probably just foregoes the insert-into-connector process and drops it in standalone packaging.

Honestly. :p
 
I'm guessing that those are 150° or 200° C conductors so are designed to be spliced to normal 90° C conductors?
 
Smart $ said:
Doesn't have to be DIN rail. You might be able to find a 3-position or more pressure plate terminal board.

Is that cooktop have a built-in-oven mate? As I said, those crimp pins look like ones that are typically inserted into an 'amphenol' connector. For selling as a standalone unit, the factory probably just foregoes the insert-into-connector process and drops it in standalone packaging.

Honestly. :p
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Standard cook top meant to go into a counter top cutout, nothing special.
 
They are made to go under a screw terminal block or similar. If you don't have that, cut the crimp terminal off and dress for a wire nut terminal if you want.
 
mivey said:
They are made to go under a screw terminal block or similar. If you don't have that, cut the crimp terminal off and dress for a wire nut terminal if you want.
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Pressure plate terminal (pressure provided by screw or spring). A spade or ring crimp is made for a screw terminal.
 
jimo144 said:
I've never used one this small but they look like Push On Terminals. Judging from your thumb in the picture they appear to be 3mm or 1/8" ? Is there a blade Push On Terminal Strip they can plug onto?
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I thought they might be 1/8" quick disconnect crimps. The ones in the picture appear a bit long. I've never seen a male end that's fully insulated either... so tape and or heat shrink would definitely be required. Also, can't say I've ever seen any rated for 30A.
 
mivey said:
They are made to go under a screw terminal block or similar. If you don't have that, cut the crimp terminal off and dress for a wire nut terminal if you want.
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Honestly, thats the only way I can see it getting done.


Now that I think about it, its possible that this cook top might be paired with an optional oven, hence those connectors.
 
infinity said:
I'm guessing that those are 150° or 200° C conductors so are designed to be spliced to normal 90° C conductors?
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And the clarify I mean the MC in the wall is classic THHN (at least it looks like that), the conductors themselves coming out of the whip appear to be high temp.
 
Smart $ said:
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The easiest, and the most typical for the field electricain is to just cut off the crimps, strip the wires back, and use wire nuts. The more professional engineered way is to provide a terminal junction box with DIN rail terminal blocks having spring-loaded terminals, rated for the voltage and current of course.
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Smart $ said:
Doesn't have to be DIN rail. You might be able to find a 3-position or more pressure plate terminal board.

[Does] that cooktop have a built-in-oven mate? As I said, those crimp pins look like ones that are typically inserted into an 'amphenol' connector. For selling as a standalone unit, the factory probably just foregoes the insert-into-connector process and drops it in standalone packaging.
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mbrooke said:
mivey said:
They are made to go under a screw terminal block or similar. If you don't have that, cut the crimp terminal off and dress for a wire nut terminal if you want.
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Honestly, thats the only way I can see it getting done.


Now that I think about it, its possible that this cook top might be paired with an optional oven, hence those connectors.
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I may as well quit posting to your topics. :slaphead:
 
Smart $ said:
I may as well quit posting to your topics. :slaphead:
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Guilty as charged :ashamed1: You were the first to mention both of those things. I worded my response poorly, and honestly I was multi tasking while reading this thread missing every other sentence in the process. Please do not take offense, I respect your time and dedication. :)
 
Smart $ said:
Pressure plate terminal (pressure provided by screw or spring). A spade or ring crimp is made for a screw terminal.
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I could not for the life of me think of how to say that at that moment but you are correct of course.
 
Smart $ said:
I may as well quit posting to your topics. :slaphead:
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I saw your DIN rail post and dismissed it. The 3-position pressure terminal was what I was thinking but I missed your mention. Should have read closer rather than skimming.

I pictured the screw-pressure plates like you see on the back of some appliances.
 
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