Wine Cooler Condensor Starting/Running Amps

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I was told to use 12-2 for this condenser. The starting amps is throwing me off. How can you run a 12-2 on something that needs 43amps at start up? Wouldn't that trip the circuit instantly every time it started up?

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Finally getting around to this. Crazy how the supply house, Home Cheapo & Lowes dont have a 30A fuseable disconnect in stock this week. I wanted to use that plus a 15A time delay fuse

Do you think it would be safe to use a 60A disconnect with 35A time delay fuse? Breaker inside would be 20A of course.

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1.21 Gigawatts said:
Finally getting around to this. Crazy how the supply house, Home Cheapo & Lowes dont have a 30A fuseable disconnect in stock this week. I wanted to use that plus a 15A time delay fuse

Do you think it would be safe to use a 60A disconnect with 35A time delay fuse? Breaker inside would be 20A of course.

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What I got..
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The data you posted requires a 20 amp circuit so the 15 amp fuses are too small. Why the fused disconnect are fuses required?
 
infinity said:
The data you posted requires a 20 amp circuit so the 15 amp fuses are too small. Why the fused disconnect are fuses required?
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Not required, just seems easier to get and what most people use around here? I asked the supply house about the standard inverse time CB you mentioned and he kinda brushed away from it so I gave up on that.

So I guess the 35A fuse would work? Is the rating on these time delay fuses the max load? In other words if the condensor starts with 43A how would a 35A fuse be sufficient? Unless it's capable of that extra surge?
 
1.21 Gigawatts said:
Not required, just seems easier to get and what most people use around here? I asked the supply house about the standard inverse time CB you mentioned and he kinda brushed away from it so I gave up on that.

So I guess the 35A fuse would work? Is the rating on these time delay fuses the max load? In other words if the condensor starts with 43A how would a 35A fuse be sufficient? Unless it's capable of that extra surge?
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A standard $5 home depot circuit breaker is an inverse time breaker as are most others. According to the data sheet all you need is a 20 amp circuit breaker and 20 amp conductors. If you want to provide a disconnecting means it doesn't need to be fused.
 
infinity said:
A standard $5 home depot circuit breaker is an inverse time breaker as are most others. According to the data sheet all you need is a 20 amp circuit breaker and 20 amp conductors. If you want to provide a disconnecting means it doesn't need to be fused.
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A 20A breaker will support a 43A start up? No way. I think the time delay fuse is safer to use IMO. I think I read it somewhere in the manual as well, I cant find it now. Ugh.
 
1.21 Gigawatts said:
A 20A breaker will support a 43A start up? No way. I think the time delay fuse is safer to use IMO. I think I read it somewhere in the manual as well, I cant find it now. Ugh.
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The data say 20 amp circuit required so that is it. Install the fuses if you like but IMO you're wasting time and money. A $5-20 amp CB will work just fine.
 
Quit fretting over the startup Amps, that lasts probably less than a second. An “inverse time” breaker means the breaker trips faster on higher current. But that is based on 600% for 10 seconds on the outside. This thing will be no more than 1 second. Fugedaboudit.
 
Jraef said:
Quit fretting over the startup Amps, that lasts probably less than a second. An “inverse time” breaker means the breaker trips faster on higher current. But that is based on 600% for 10 seconds on the outside. This thing will be no more than 1 second. Fugedaboudit.
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LOL. Thanks for providing the hard numbers. I knew that it was pretty high for quite a duration and as you stated the normal starting current spike won't last very long.
 
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