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Only the equipment that is likely to require maintenance or servicing. IMO, a disconnect would not.
Unless it is a fusible disconnect.
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I left that out intentionally. I was afraid I would lose connection to the site again before I could finish typing.:lol:
Edit: Depending on what the disconnect is for, I don't think I've heard of any inspectors looking at them like a panel or main disconnect.
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jwelectric
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Turn it off, connect the test equipment, turn it back on, turn it off to remove the test equipment. Nothing to it
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That only works if you turn it off on the line side of the disconnect....if you don't it is still live.Turn it off, connect the test equipment, turn it back on, turn it off to remove the test equipment. Nothing to it
jumper
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That only works if you turn it off on the line side of the disconnect....if you don't it is still live.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Them handles only seem to kill half the power.:lol:
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This code section needs a lot of work as with its current wording it requires 110.26(A) workspace for all equipment where it is even remotely possible that someone will work on it, examine it or test it while it is energized.
It prohibits the installation of the required kitchen counter receptacles as the counter in in the required workspace. It should only apply to specific equipment like 110.26(F) does. It should not be a blanket statement that applies to all electrical equipment.
That being said, I think that it is very likely that a disconnect, fused or not, will be tested or examined while energized. That is the first point of testing for many service men when looking at non-functional equipment. It tells him if he has to look at the equipment or if he has to look upstream for the problem.
It prohibits the installation of the required kitchen counter receptacles as the counter in in the required workspace. It should only apply to specific equipment like 110.26(F) does. It should not be a blanket statement that applies to all electrical equipment.
That being said, I think that it is very likely that a disconnect, fused or not, will be tested or examined while energized. That is the first point of testing for many service men when looking at non-functional equipment. It tells him if he has to look at the equipment or if he has to look upstream for the problem.
jwelectric
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That only works if you turn it off on the line side of the disconnect....if you don't it is still live.
I work with several companies that require the service tech to turn off the supply to any disconnect then attach any testing equipment then turn the supply to that disconnect back on in order to safely do voltage testing to the line side of the disconnect.
110.26 is not a rule to allow people to test for voltage in an unsafe manner. 110.26 does not relieve the requirement for the proper type and category rated meter or the proper PPE before doing a voltage test. The unsafe manner in which we do things is not covered by the NEC.
As you pointed out the disconnect over a kitchen countertop does not have to meet 110.26 and I bet there has been many that has tested for voltage on one of those.
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That has nothing to do with the code rule. Even with that procedure, the equipment is being tested while live and 110.26(A) space is required. It is my opinion that ALL electrical equipment is likely to be tested while energized.
Again that has nothing to do with the application of the NEC rule. The fact that you are using the correct PPE does not change the code requirement to provide workspace for all electrical equipment that may be tested while energized.
That is not what I said. I said that you cannot install the code required kitchen counter top receptacle without creating a violation of 110.26.
My point is that the code wording is incorrect as it is impossible to comply with. The current wording applies to ALL electrical equipment. The code needs to be change to restrict the equipment that the work space rule applies to.
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