Wp gfi

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This may have come up before but I couldn't find it. We are doing and education center and we are getting a conditional power inspection. It just so happens that we already have all our devices in when the inspector stops and says all the outside GFI's have to be WP rated eventhough not only are they on this huge porch/patio that has a cover that hangs out at least 10 feet from the exterior wall where they are but they are in the wp in use covers. How do they have to be wp rated when all this is in place. please give a code reference. And I thought GFI's were already wp rated. Thanks
 
Look at the last sentence of 406.8 in the 2008 NEC, the inspector is correct.

If they are straight blade receptacles and located outside they must be WP type.
 
406.8(A)(1) and 406.8(B)(1). "All 15- and 20-ampere, 125- and 250-volt nonlocking receptacles shall be listed weather-resistant type."

If it's outside, it's to be WP. It matters not what overhang is 'protecting' it.
 
480sparky said:
If it's outside, it's to be WP. It matters not what overhang is 'protecting' it.
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I just finished a class for my CEUs and they brought that one up so I guess there have been questions by other people and they just wanted to make sure that everyone was on board.

At least it's easy to remember. Outside = weather-resistant.
 
growler said:
I just finished a class for my CEUs and they brought that one up so I guess there have been questions by other people and they just wanted to make sure that everyone was on board.

At least it's easy to remember. Outside = weather-resistant.
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I've heard many an argument against considering a given location as not being outside (damp or wet).... "it's a covered porch, the rain will never reach it, it'll never get used anyway"..... Some people spend more time arguing a losing case than simply installing a WR GFI and bubble cover.

Myself, I consider a worse-case scenario instead. I imagine someone getting out the garden hose or pressure washer.
 
Can't a feed-through device be used inside, so the exterior receptacle is just a standard duplex?
 
BTW, not only must they weather resistant they must also be tamper resistant. I also get them for $17.XX . Bob I'll sell them to you for #25- Sparky is ripping you off. :D
 
The correct initials are GFCI, I beleive your talking about the individual stand alone receptical and not a GFI Device, which could be at the Panel, No?

I've frankly never installed a GFI, but a GFCI sounds more like what your stating... ?

& being WP... we've all been educated!
 
cadpoint said:
The correct initials are GFCI, I beleive your talking about the individual stand alone receptical and not a GFI Device, which could be at the Panel, No?

I've frankly never installed a GFI, but a GFCI sounds more like what your stating... ?

& being WP... we've all been educated!
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Hey Jude, We are talking about the GFCI that is built into the receptacles. They are both WR and TR. You could use a breaker GFCI but they cost considerably more and then you would still need a WR & TR duplex receptacle. :smile:
 
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