"You can't use those"

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peter d

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I once worked for a contractor that forbid the use of T-strippers. "They nick the wire." :D

I was also told: "Throw that level away." :mad: I'm not kidding.

Suffice it to say, I hated working for that contractor from day one.
 
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I wish I could find a way to strip wire that
doesn't damage the conductor.

I have a really good idea for a stripper that would not damage the conductor. But it's not particularly practicle.

And if I let the secret out it might become a manditory method, something AFI's, and I wouldn't be able to afford to do electrical work anymore.
 
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I learned to strip wire with my kliens,Then I used a greenlee stripper with curved handles and love them,has a 6/32 and a 8/32 screw cutter built in.Yes if you are not carefull you can nick and/or cut through a conductor :cool:
 
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How about a battery powered heating element grasping device where is first melts the coating off the wire and then follows with a quick scrubbing action. All in one tool, and takes 3 seconds. Nah. :eek:
 
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I think it's important to understand just how much a conductor is weakened when it's nicked by stripping. Same reason stress lines are built into concrete. Sometimes it only takes two wiggles of a copper conducter to get it to snap off at a nick.

That's the whole reason I bought up that thread on wire strippers.
 
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My sister invented and patented a tool for rough-in's in name of my father. It is called the C.R.I.T . Charlies Rough In Tool. It is available in Cali only. Not a big demand for it, but I have one in my bag. Nice tool. It has a klein style head with a small flat hammerlike device on one side for popping holes in fiberglass boxes and or driving staples. Also, it has a crimping device that is inside the cut of the tool, not underneath which makes it difficult. On one handle of the tool, it has a box cutter that retracts and the other handle has a hollow bottom for a marker or pen. it holds the writing device similar to how a compass holds one. Pretty neat but kinda heavy. She have the patent for 3 more years, so don't try to steal it. lol :D
 
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Hey, melting the insulation for stripping is my idea aelectricalman.

It is a great way to keep the conductor intact. Batteries though, not a very good choise if you have an eight hour work day. I've had battery powered soldering irons. Perfect for throwing at stuff because they're hardly useful. But butane? I had a very cool butane soldering iron that only needed to be refilled with inexpensive fuel in order to continue the project. That's workable.

Edit: Sorry aelectricalman, I didn't mean to call you Allen.

[ March 21, 2005, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: physis ]
 
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If enough of a "ring" is knitched into the wire while stripping the wire it can cause overheating just as a loose connection. We teach our Apprent. to "tear" the insulation away with the kleins rather than cutting into it.

It's all in the touch......
 
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That it is Big John.

But it would be really nice to have a tool that removed the need for competence all together.

Did I just say that?
 
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Did a trim out on a 4,000 ft home years ago and we had a 4 man crew,One guy was working for us for almost 6 months.His job that day was to install SD`S and inviso plates and can trims and bulbs.I walked past him in a hall and 15 minutes later he was at the same exact spot ;) good thing was that he was taught to leave a loop in all ceiling boxes.This was a 2 story with TGI trusses,wouldn`t that be fun ;)
 
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arc a nice set of linesman's..then throw the t-stripper away. Once ya blow a nice hole thru the cutting edge the linesman's strip great..j/k
 
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Actually I have every pair of kliens I have blown up over the years :eek: One pair was from 1975 in NYC doing a remodel and it was a dc feed for an elevator.The dc controled selinoid valves for a hydrostatic elevator.Circa 1915,after the sparks settled there I was with a pair of handles and the pivot point.That was it just handles.Scared the c__p out of me :eek:
 
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I strip wires a lot like bigjohn said. I clamp the stripper down all the way and twist to make a weak point in the insulation. Then I take a second bite more toward the end of the wire, but I don't quite clamp down all the way. Then I pull and the wire tears at the first bite point.

Not bad for an engineer, huh?

Steve
 
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I'll stop using T-strippers when you pry them from my cold, dead hands. I've tried all the gizmos and even the old fashioned way, with a knife and with linesmans, and there is no better way than with strippers. (Not those cheap $5 multi tools either, they will nick the wire.)

Why did you even go back for day 2 ?
I was young, and didn't know any better. I learned my lesson though, never to work for old timers that are set in their ways and refuse to learn new things.
 
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Originally posted by peter d:
I learned my lesson though, never to work for old timers that are set in their ways and refuse to learn new things.
I wonder if there are any of those guys here? :p
 
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