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Minuteman

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Okay, I posted this as a reply over on the square foot for new construction thread by 77401. But now I'm wondering what you r price would be on this.

*NOTE*: I just cut and pasted this from the other thread.

I'm bidding a burn out for a new GC. Apparently their other guy has been bidding by the ft/2, as they did not give me a print or total openings. The house has 4 beds, 2 1/2 baths, 2 car, 2 living areas - 3200 ft/2 They did tell me that it has 22 fixtures, 4 cans, 3 HVL, 2 water heaters, and a cooktop - double oven. Gas heat & 4 ton A/C.

I went to the site, total gut EXCEPT for kitchen and 3 beds (which just have the ceiling removed). Fire started outside on the back porch and got the master bedroom. New roof.

I counted all the openings (as most were still there) and added the ones that I know will be needed. I counted 62 recepts and 43 switches. And it has a pool!

The home was wired pre GFCI. So, upgrades are in orders. The upgrades for this house include, GFCI's, AFCI's, Smokes, and the service needs upgrade to 200 amps. (That is separate money to the insurance company.) Also, the AHJ here has Code amendments that require GFCI protection on all switches within 5' of a tub & shower, and a supplemental ground.

I'm glad that I went. Other wise, had I bid by the foot alone, I would have guessed on the recepts & switches, and not known about the pool. Also, I would have missed the upgrades.

I give them my price Monday morning. I had rather be too high and miss it, than too low and eat it.

I have $12,250 for the rewire, $2,180 for the code upgrades, and they supply the light fixtures and fans. What do you think?
 
Okay, so 50 something people have dropped by and looked at this and not left a reply. Maybe it's to convaluted. I'll try again.

4 bed, 2 ? bath, 2 car, 2 living areas, pool. Total: 3200 ft/2

(22) Inside light fixtures (supplied by them)
(3) Outside light fixtures (supplied by them)
(8) Fans (supplied by them)
(4) Cans & trims (supplied by me)
(3) HVL (supplied by me)
(62) Receptacles
(37) Single pole switches
(3) Sets of 3 ways
(1) Double oven 50 amp
(1) Cooktop 30 amp
(2) Water Heaters 30 amps each
(1) Dryer 30 amps
(1) A/C unit 40 amps
$12,250


Extras:
(1) New 200 amp 42 circuit service
(6) Interconnected smoke detectors
(5) AFCI breakers
(6) GFCI receptacles
(1) Supplemental ground rod.
$2,180

Am I in the ballpark?
 
Close but a little low on the extras!
Check my math?

$5.36 ft/2



(22) Inside light fixtures (supplied by them) 75 1650
(3) Outside light fixtures (supplied by them) 75 225
( Fans (supplied by them) 170 1360
(4) Cans & trims (supplied by me) 140 560
(3) HVL (supplied by me) 220 660
(62) Receptacles 75 4650
(37) Single pole switches 75 2775
(3) Sets of 3 ways 85 255
(1) Double oven 50 amp 200 200
(1) Cooktop 30 amp 225 225
(2) Water Heaters 30 amps each 225 225
(1) Dryer 30 amps 225 225
(1) A/C unit 40 amps 400 400
13410

Extras:
(1) New 200 amp 42 circuit service 2400 2400
(6) Interconnected smoke detectors 100 600
(5) AFCI breakers 75 375
(6) GFCI receptacles 45 270
(1) Supplemental ground rod. 120 120
3765
 
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$4.50 ft/2

(22) Inside light fixtures (supplied by them) @$75 = $1650
(3) Outside light fixtures (supplied by them) @$60 = $180
(8) Fans (supplied by them) @$90 = $720
(4) Cans & trims (supplied by me) @$90 = $360
(3) HVL (supplied by me) @150 = $450
(62) Receptacles @$70 = $4340
(37) Single pole switches @$70 = $2590
(3) Sets of 3 ways @$80 = $240
(1) Double oven 50 amp @$125 = $125
(1) Cooktop 30 amp @$75 = $75
(2) Water Heaters 30 amps each @$75 = $150
(1) Dryer 30 amps @$75 = $75
(1) A/C unit 40 amps @$100 = $100
Total = $11055 + 10% (profit) + $90 (permit) = $12250.50


Extras:
(1) New 42 circuit 200 amp service @$1500 = $1200
(6) Interconnected smoke detectors @60 = $360
(5) AFCI Breakers @$45 = $225
(6) GFCI receptacles @$20 = $120
(1) Supplemental ground rod. @$60 = $75
Total = $1980 = 10% = $2178
 
Minuteman:

Was it late/really early when you did your math?

(1) New 42 circuit 200 amp service @$1500 = $1200

1) Supplemental ground rod. @$60 = $75

Just kidding

With copper as high as it is, I'm getting $250 for a 50amp / 4 wire circuit, $200 for a 40amp/3 wire, $200 for a 30amp/4 wire, $150 for 30amp/3 wire
 
andycook said:
Minuteman:

Was it late/really early when you did your math?

(1) New 42 circuit 200 amp service @$1500 = $1200

1) Supplemental ground rod. @$60 = $75

Just kidding

With copper as high as it is, I'm getting $250 for a 50amp / 4 wire circuit, $200 for a 40amp/3 wire, $200 for a 30amp/4 wire, $150 for 30amp/3 wire


Yep... way late. But, it is correct on the "real" bid.
 
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Mine would have been higher by a third. I wouldnt get the job. The guy that does get the job would do it at cost. This Happened, I am still amazed and chortling everytime I think about not getting the job.
 
Minute
A couple of thing you migh have over looked on your bid?
Water heater need disconnects?
You prioced Smoke detectors less than the switches & the unit is way more $$
A/C unit disconnect & whip?
Dryer & cook top looks like labor only & no material
Ceiling fans? Does it include the install or just rough wiring & then who wil install it?
Just something to think about before you give away your time.
 
77401 said:
Minute
A couple of thing you migh have over looked on your bid?
Just something to think about before you give away your time.

Thanks 77, it was late when I worked on that.

Water heater need disconnects? Missed them
You prioced Smoke detectors less than the switches & the unit is way more $$ Got it - I figure smokes take less labor
A/C unit disconnect & whip? Missed it.
Dryer & cook top looks like labor only & no material Yeah, but short run.
Ceiling fans? Does it include the install or just rough wiring & then who wil install it? We install them.

When I got to the office this morning and had the office girl type everything up, I had her add an extra 5% - just in case.
 
4 bed, 2 ? bath, 2 car, 2 living areas, pool. Total: 3200 ft/2

(22) Inside light fixtures (supplied by them)@ 60 = 1320
(3) Outside light fixtures (supplied by them)@ 60 = 180
(8) Fans (supplied by them) @ 150 = 1200
(4) Cans & trims (supplied by me)@110 = 440
(3) HVL (supplied by me)
(62) Receptacles @ 60 = 3720
(37) Single pole switches @60 = 2220
(3) Sets of 3 ways @70 = 210
(1) Double oven 50 amp @ 220 = 220
(1) Cooktop 30 amp @ 150 = 150
(2) Water Heaters 30 amps each @200 = 400
(1) Dryer 30 amps @150 = 150
(1) A/C unit 40 amps @220 = 220
$10430


Extras:
(1) New 200 amp 42 circuit service @ 2700 = 2700
(6) Interconnected smoke detectors@ 90 = 540
(5) AFCI breakers(never priced them)
(6) GFCI receptacles @ 75 = 450
(1) Supplemental ground rod. @100w wire = 100
$3790

$14,220

roughly around $4.40 a sq. ft.


Thats what i would bid the job at I think I have very fair prices with a nice profit percentage.
 
Minuteman said:
So, how long have you been a politician?
I've held an elective office for the past 16 years so I've learned to navigate in rough water. I'll post my unit prices when I'm sober.

Bob on the left coast.
 
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