bath gfci

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Dennis Alwon

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HR to first switch box. 3-wire to light, then 2-wire to next light, then 3-wire to switches.

Legal, but a PITA to troubleshoot.

Okay, I didn't catch that. I agree and I have not seen that type iinstall for 40 years or more where the feeds were in the lights.
 

LEO2854

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Leo, show this to your inspector and see if he will admit he is wrong.Thanks Jumper:grin: .I do not have the 2008 hand book so i just have the black book to go by so i will cough up the dough and get one. The inspector has one in his office so i will point it out to him and i know he will stand down once he see's it in the book we have been doing the seperate HR's for years and never gave it a second thought . He flag me on that 15 years ago when he was the new inspector the wording in the 1996 code is almost the same as it is now.

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Leo, I double checked the MA amendments and there are no changes from the NEC.
Yes i looked at that to and the MEC says nothing about it.
The inspector is a good man and as soon as he see's the graphic he will change his mind .Where you guys 15 years ago:roll::grin::grin:
You can run the circuits as shown in the graphic Jumper posted and the inspector must accept it.

Thanks Dennis and 480Sparky now i can see what your point is:grin:
When is the 2011 hand book going up for sale:roll:
 

jetlag

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The troubleshooting is the easy part but talking down lights is more of a hassle then opeing a switch box. I think that's what Ken was getting at.

The small metal recep boxes they had in the day , the ones you take the side off to gang it , would only pass todays box fill for 1 12-2 cable and one device , but they would use 2 or 3 cables sometimes . to compensate they would hit ceiling box with HR , and have 4 cables out to a recep on each wall , and one cable out to switch leg . With dim flash light each room looked like a giant spider was claiming the territory :confused:
 

LEO2854

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The small metal recep boxes they had in the day , the ones you take the side off to gang it , would only pass todays box fill for 1 12-2 cable and one device , but they would use 2 or 3 cables sometimes . to compensate they would hit ceiling box with HR , and have 4 cables out to a recep on each wall , and one cable out to switch leg . With dim flash light each room looked like a giant spider was claiming the territory :confused:

Wait till you see the 2011 NEC THERE will be more 2wire switch legs .
dennis mentioned that in an earlyer post:roll:
 

jmellc

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Durham, NC
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Facility Maintenance Tech. Licensed Electrician
I want to be sure I am planning this right, I have 3 baths all are directly over each other , in a residence. basement , first floor . second floor . I plan to run 1 20 amp circuit for the gfic outlets in all 3 . I know when done this way can serve no other eguip outlets in baths, so lights will all be on different circuit. If I install any extra gfic outlets besides the ones by the basins , like a wall outlet 16" above floor, is that allowed to be connected to same 20 amp or does that count as serving other eguip ? people use them to connect small floor heaters. Also can you feed out of a bath gfci on one floor to protect bath on another floor or does each bath need seperate Gfci recepticals
I believe "serving other equipment" means something fixed, such as a hot water circulator or whirlpool, anything fixed in place. If I even think someone is to use a space heater, I put a dedicated circuit for it. Bathrooms already have a heavy load from hair dryers, curling irons, etc. & are often likely to be used at once; everyone getting ready for work, school, etc. A space heater is a monster all by itself. I do same in kitchen if I know a microwave goes in a certain place. Dedicated ckt if I have my way on it.

I also like using the GFI receptacle for each bathroom, especially with multistory dwellings. Talk the customer into it if you can. As for lights, I put them on with general lighting.
 
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