Upgrading a Residential Service
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jxofaltrds
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No and no.
jumper
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Yep, I agree.
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If the GEC is not sized for the new service then IMO it is required to change it to the proper size.
As long as the gas piping has an appliance that has an electrical circuit then it is not necessary. 250.104(B) allows the egc to be used to bond the pipe.
If you have CSST-- the corrugated flexible gas pipe then it must be bonded at the point of entry to the building.
As long as the gas piping has an appliance that has an electrical circuit then it is not necessary. 250.104(B) allows the egc to be used to bond the pipe.
If you have CSST-- the corrugated flexible gas pipe then it must be bonded at the point of entry to the building.
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You can run a #6-- all the code requires-- to the first rod then run a bonding jumper to the second rod. I usually have one continuous piece of #6 that goes from meter to one rod and on to the other.
To me the key is in your wording "upgrade".
Are you increasing the service size or changing the location of the service disconnect ?
Keep in mind, if you are up-sizing you may have to increase the GEC to the water, as Dennis mentions..
If you are relocating the actual service disconnect remember the GEC must come from the SERVICE and not a sub-panel (some exceptions) plus splicing of GECs has limitations.
Are you increasing the service size or changing the location of the service disconnect ?
Keep in mind, if you are up-sizing you may have to increase the GEC to the water, as Dennis mentions..
If you are relocating the actual service disconnect remember the GEC must come from the SERVICE and not a sub-panel (some exceptions) plus splicing of GECs has limitations.
Richardtheelectrician
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It's ridiculous they shut my thread down and you can't even spell electric.
jumper
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You trying to get banned? Enough already.
Richardtheelectrician
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What? Are you going to ban me? For what?
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Let's get back on topic and forget about such things.
jumper
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I am not banning anyone, I am not a mod: you got a beef with me, then PM me; but, leave this guys thread alone please.
jumper
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I have no problem complying with this.
Richardtheelectrician
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Yes, sir. But I don't like what they did. It was a good topic, lots of views, a few laughs.
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I know, I felt the same way when they cancelled The Fall Guy.
I agree with no and no,
the question I have to this is what if its an older house with the water pipe grounding at the nearest point, would you now need to run a new grounding wire to within 5' of the water service entrance?
jumper
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Okay, my brain is fuzzy: When could you put a service GEC in a sub panel?
K8MHZ
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Oh, Bob....:slaphead:
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So if you change the service from a 60 to a 200 you would use the old GEC to the waterline?
jumper
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Interesting question. IDK.
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