Rewire
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We are smoke free in our shop and trucks we are looking at tobacco free which would include chewing tobacco what is your shop policy totally free or some variation.
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What people do with there lives in non of my business My policy is no smoking and chewing on customers property otherwise it does not matter,Making peoples lives miserable by restricting what they do in the own lives is ridicules and unnecessary .
Rewire
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but sometimes what they do does affect your business in the matter of smoking it directly affects your health care costs if they use ilegal drugs it can definatly affect your business if they show up on TV making racist comments while attending an aryan brotherhood rally well that can affect your business.
ceb58
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- Raeford, NC
Our insurance carrier charges the employee more if they are a smoker. Which I think is wrong, they don't charge the 200lb over weight person more for shoving snickers bars in there mouth.
If you suspect your employee of being on drugs, then have them tested, if they come back positive fire them.
If they are at a Aryan Brotherhood rally in a company shirt is one thing but other wise be careful of what you think you can tell your employees what they can and cant do on their own time.
Simple ;Considering that you are not required by law to provide health insurance to your Employees take the cost of the insurance and divide it up evenly to all your employees and add that to their pay and They can shop around and buy their own If they want it.
I'll bet they will love the extra money instead.
Rewire
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- Lake of the Ozarks
Simple ;Considering that you are not required by law to provide health insurance to your Employees take the cost of the insurance and divide it up evenly to all your employees and add that to their pay and They can shop around and buy their own If they want it.
I'll bet they will love the extra money instead.
Most could not buy it for what I can get at a group rate it is a benefit and part of a package that we use tom attract and retain top employees.
Rewire
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200LB is not overweight the difference is the direct health care costs that are attributed to smokers is something they have imperical data on an employee that smokes also costs the company in productivity. I may not be able to control what they do on saturday but I can control if they have a job monday.
Rewire
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actually he diddn't want control he wanted to create a German empire and colonize it with the aryan race. But thats another topic.
A perspective from across the pond....
Smoking in the workplace is illegal in the UK. I don't have a problem with that.
Smoking in pubs is also banned. That I'm not so sure about. I'm not a smoker and when I went to a pub in the past the smell of smoke clung to my clothes and came with me when I left. I don't miss that at all. However, it was my choice to go there. Now pubs, like many other businesses are have a hard time and many are closing. To some extent, this has been blamed on the smoking ban.
I think the pub smoking/no smoking decision should be at the discretion of the owner/operator. Customers will vote with their feet.
Smoking in the workplace is illegal in the UK. I don't have a problem with that.
Smoking in pubs is also banned. That I'm not so sure about. I'm not a smoker and when I went to a pub in the past the smell of smoke clung to my clothes and came with me when I left. I don't miss that at all. However, it was my choice to go there. Now pubs, like many other businesses are have a hard time and many are closing. To some extent, this has been blamed on the smoking ban.
I think the pub smoking/no smoking decision should be at the discretion of the owner/operator. Customers will vote with their feet.
Money is what keeps Employees.
The thing is if you can buy insurance cheaper at a group rate that same discount should be available to anyone who wants to form a group to get the lowest rates And employees should be getting the full value of their labor in money not Benefits.
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- Massachusetts
I will take the bennies, but thanks for trying to tell me what is best for me.
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- Massachusetts
Here in MA smoking in the workplace is illegal so of course the company policy is no smoking in the workplace.
Electric-Light
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Many states consider company owned vehicles shared work space if there are passengers.
If a higher status employee asks if its ok for him to smoke, the lower ranking employees have to say they don't mind out of social obligations.
If your boss smokes in the car and you're riding with him in the course of duty that's an occupational exposure to smoke.
If a higher status employee asks if its ok for him to smoke, the lower ranking employees have to say they don't mind out of social obligations.
If your boss smokes in the car and you're riding with him in the course of duty that's an occupational exposure to smoke.
zbang
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In most places in the US, there was an increase in business of bars/pubs/restaurants when they went no-smoke. The owners were quite afraid to make the change but were generally pleased with the result a few months after the change.
One thing that gets my goat is when the smokers are allowed to take smoke breaks on the clock and I, the non-smoker, am not allowed to take no-smoke breaks.
He said 200 lb over weight (likely an exaggeration)... not weighing 200 lb.
Did you know that among preventable deaths, diet deficiencies cause more preventable deaths than smoking? But when you look at published statistics, it doesn't appear that way because the category is subdivided...
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_preventable_causes_of_death and look at malnutrition, poor diet, overweight and obesity).
...In fact, totaled up, by about 180%.
And that doesn't include physical inactivity (something we overweight persons are usually guilty of :angel
.This is how advocacy works. Reports are biased, facts are weighted... just to affect your opinion. Once majority public opinion is gained, one thing leads to another...
A result of influenced public opinion through fact distortion. For example, I'll bet a hefty dollar that empirical data you refer to was collected when the smoking employees were not permitted to smoke while working, having to go somewhere other than their work station to partake.
So you are saying he could do that without implementing control... :lol:
Nothing preventing you from lighting up. No one says have to inhale.
You can also look at it this way... It is a well-published fact that smoking cessation results in the smoker lacking concentration. You could be subjecting yourself to an unsafe situation if that person is not permitted to take a smoke break. :huh:
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- Massachusetts
Unrestrained personal bias.
GuiltyUnrestrained personal bias.
... but presenting facts contrary to public opinion has always been considered personal bias. That's why the real facts are always buried in subterfuge.
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- Illinois
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- retired electrician
Do you have a source for that?...everything I have read says the opposite. Illinois says they have lost hundreds of millions in gambling revenue after they passed the smoking ban that applied to most public places including the river boat casinos.
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