Required receps per 210.52

[480sparky]

Here's the situation: 12-foot wall in a dwelling kitchen. 4-foot countertop right in the middle of it. Two receps installed 1' from each end of the c'top. See drawing below.

Question: Are more receptacles required by 210.52 in the light-blue shaded areas?

If possible, explain your response.

 

[William1978]

No the rec that are at counter top height are with in 6' of the end of the wall.
You could get by with one rec if it was in the dead center.

 

[Chamuit]

Yes, it's usable wall space.

 

[iwire]

I am going with I don't know, I am very undecided.

 

[stickboy1375]

Yes, it's usable wall space.

The counter receptacle meets the requirement. To end this argument early, I would install them regardless if code requires them, Everyone knows they will be used/wanted.

 

[chris kennedy]

Yes, it's usable wall space.

From the 08 Handbook

The word usable does not appear at all in 210.52 as a condition for determining compliance with the receptacle-spacing requirements.

 

[iwire]

By the way I want to give 480Sparky a big thanks for putting my thoughts into an image and starting this thread.

 

[William1978]

The counter receptacle meets the requirement. To end this argument early, I would install them regardless if code requires them, Everyone knows they will be used/wanted.

I agree I would install them also.

 

[chris kennedy]

By the way I want to give 480Sparky a big thanks for putting my thoughts into an image and starting this thread.

I just want him to be my friend as per the new format.

 

[ceknight]

I am going with I don't know, I am very undecided.

Yeah, me too. I mean, yes, I would put recepts there, but I'm not convinced I have to.

 

[stickboy1375]

By the way I want to give 480Sparky a big thanks for putting my thoughts into an image and starting this thread.

But we all know as long as the receptacle is not over 5 1/2 ft. off floor or located within a cabinet that is counts towards the required receptacle as outlined in 210.52.

 

[William1978]

By the way I want to give 480Sparky a big thanks for putting my thoughts into an image and starting this thread.

Yes this is a good thread. Gets the ole noggin working.

 

[iwire]

But we all know as long as the receptacle is not over 5 1/2 ft. off floor or located within a cabinet that is counts towards the required receptacle as outlined in 210.52.

I agree with that 100%.

The problem is the along the floor line measurement.

 

[stickboy1375]

Yes this is a good thread. Gets the ole noggin working.

OR, just making something out of nothing. That counter receptacle is well within the 6' required wall spacing. no other code requires another receptacle on the wall.

 

[stickboy1375]

I agree with that 100%.

The problem is the along the floor line measurement.

So your saying I need to measure along the wall, then up the side of the cabinet? Interesting for sure.

 

[iwire]

So your saying I need to measure along the wall, then up the side of the cabinet? Interesting for sure.

No, I am saying we are required to mesure along the floor.


210.52(A)(1) 'measured horizontally along the floor line'.

 

[iwire]

OR, just making something out of nothing.

Well that is our SOP. :grin:

 

[480sparky]

I agree with that 100%.

The problem is the along the floor line measurement.

That's my take on it..... you measure horizontally along the floor, as specified in 210.52(A)(1), not straight-as-the-crow-flies.

 

[chris kennedy]

That counter receptacle is well within the 6' required wall spacing. no other code requires another receptacle on the wall.

210.52(A)(1) Any space 600 mm (2 ft) or more in width (including space measured around corners) and unbroken along the floor line by doorways, fireplaces, and similar openings

Wouldn't this include a bar?

 

[stickboy1375]

Wouldn't this include a bar?

A bar is a similar opening?