more pick as compared to who?,,,and why are you using twelve everywhere?
more pick as compared to who?,,,and why are you using twelve everywhere?
Residential receptacle boxes used are generally smaller in size than those used in commercial, so it's a lot easier to excede the max. Many houses are wired in #12 or larger, most need not be, but #12 is more durable when it comes to bending, I've been on too many calls where the #14 broke at the switch or receptacle. On larger houses, there are bigger loads such as chandoliers that can easily excede 15 amps. I've gone behind too many romex yankers that put half the lights in the house on a 15 amp circuit, then wonder why the breaker trips when the homeowner has a party, and has all of the lights on at one time. #14 is fine for your run of the mill FHA house, But if you do custom homes you will need more 15 amp circuits or fewer 20 amp circuits.
That's usually caused by improper wire stripping, and ringing of the conductor.I've been on too many calls where the #14 broke at the switch or receptacle.
A load like that should receive an adequate independent circuit. Poor planning can happen anywhere.On larger houses, there are bigger loads such as chandoliers that can easily excede 15 amps.
I do prefer 20a GP receptacle circuits, because plug-in loads are unpredictable.#14 is fine for your run of the mill FHA house, But if you do custom homes you will need more 15 amp circuits or fewer 20 amp circuits.
That's usually caused by improper wire stripping, and ringing of the conductor.
A load like that should receive an adequate independent circuit. Poor planning can happen anywhere.
I do prefer 20a GP receptacle circuits, because plug-in loads are unpredictable.
We need to get together on a job sometime.I agree Larry, and I've done 1 1/2 million dollar custom homes and I still run 14 for the lighting circuits.
Some AHJs allow only one wire per drilled hole, and only one cable per staple,
That's usually caused by improper wire stripping, and ringing of the conductor.
My point proven, #12 is much more forgiving.
A load like that should receive an adequate independent circuit. Poor planning can happen anywhere.
Resi electricians plan circuits? Haven't seen much of that. It's get in, get out.
I do prefer 20a GP receptacle circuits, because plug-in loads are unpredictable.
Except when the vacuum cleaner is in use, which often coincides with all of the lights being on, which is why I prefer keeping lights and receptacles separated.The general purpose receptacle circuits are usually the lightest loaded in residental.
Except when the vacuum cleaner is in use, which often coincides with all of the lights being on, which is why I prefer keeping lights and receptacles separated.
Come on over!Haha need to work for more EC's with your point of view.:roll:
Come on over!
I look at electrical systems with performance in mind. It's an active, dynamic system. I try to envision how it's going to be used. We place a lot more than lamps on our receptacle circuits these days, with TVs, computers, and other electronics.
For example, in a mid-sized home, I might put two or three bedrooms' worth of room, closet, hallway, and bath lighting on a single 15a circuit, and a single 20a receptacle circuit takes care of the bedrooms and the hallway.
In a larger house I did a few years ago, each kids room has four recesessed lights, a ceiling fan/light, a walk-in closet, and a separate bath with sink ights, ceiling lights, and an exhaust fan, so each got its own 15a lighting circuit.
I also gave each bedroom its own receptacle circuit, but also only 15a, which I felt was fine for 2 receptacles per wall. The master bed room, with six cans and 2 fans, and an outdoor hot tub, got a single 15a lighting circuit.
The master bath lighting circuit, with separate throne and shower rooms, recessed and sink lights, and two exhaust fans, plus twin walk-in closets, got a 15a circuit. The 12 split-wired bedroom receptacles were divided into two 15a circuits.