800amp panel install

[LarryFine]

In my opinion "or by other effective means" leaves the door open to any color and any method acceptable to the AHJ.

"The Great and Powerful Oz has spoken!"​

 

[electricianjoel]

Augie,
HOW TRUE! As a newer member it is hard to be picked apart but if we can learn something then by all means.

 

[dmagyar]

Splicing on left side loads

Splicing on left side loads

I'm curious; it seems like there are in-line splices on the vertical portion of the left side panel loads. I've always tried to pull the load wires long enough to at least reach the bottom of the panel. Nice clean install otherwise though.

 

[ty]

In my opinion



leaves the door open to any color and any method acceptable to the AHJ.

Larry, by applying "Charlie's Rule" I have to agree with Bob and Don, Rob and others.

The current wording in 110.15 is "....durably and permanently marked by an outer finish that is orange in color or by other effective means."

IF it said, "...durably and permanently marked by an outer finish, or by other effective means, that is orange in color..." THEN I would agree with you. But this second option is not how it is worded.

 

[LarryFine]

I understand. I just take it as meaning an effective means other than an outer finish. Of course, you understand that.

Okay, so what other effective means do you use, or consider compliant and, well, effective?

 

[iwire]

Okay, so what other effective means do you use, or consider compliant and, well, effective?

All rise for the Great and Powerful Oz!​

Oz says absolutely any method that is acceptable to the AHJ.

 

[LarryFine]

All rise for the Great and Powerful Oz!​

Oz says absolutely any method that is acceptable to the AHJ.

Well, let's suppose I was running a 3ph circuit for a deep fryer from a high-leg service (which I am) and was using MC (which I also am). Would anyone object to me coloring the whire wire with an orange Sharpie?

It's just that it's never dawned on me to use anything but orange insulation or other effective means D) of using orange to denote the high leg, nor to ask an inspector what he considers a compliant method.

I'm kinda s'posed to know, y'know?

 

[Karl H]

Terminating the "High-Leg" on "C" phase is poor design IMO.

 

[LarryFine]

Terminating the "High-Leg" on "C" phase is poor design IMO.

Here, it's on C through the meter (and older existing services), and we now transpose it to B in the service equipment.

 

[danickstr]

RE the supply jumper: if the wire is AL, then maybe the CU bonding jumper is 12.5 % of the Cu equivalent. It does not have to be sized to the AL, but the CU.

 

[rpjaj5]

I'm curious; it seems like there are in-line splices on the vertical portion of the left side panel loads. I've always tried to pull the load wires long enough to at least reach the bottom of the panel. Nice clean install otherwise though.

I did not like the splices either but the supply house shorted us on our cuts. We did not want to pull out and pull back in because the runs are any where from 200' to 500', so this was to us the best fix and also a supply house butt chewing.
Thanks

 

[dmagyar]

Send picture to supply house so they can frame it

Send picture to supply house so they can frame it

I did not like the splices either but the supply house shorted us on our cuts. We did not want to pull out and pull back in because the runs are any where from 200' to 500', so this was to us the best fix and also a supply house butt chewing.
Thanks

Thanks for the response, I'd send the picture to the supply house and insist that they put it up on the board/wall so they don't repeat their mistake. Did they at least pay for your labor to install and tape the splicing sleeves?

 

[rpjaj5]

Thanks for the response, I'd send the picture to the supply house and insist that they put it up on the board/wall so they don't repeat their mistake. Did they at least pay for your labor to install and tape the splicing sleeves?

No, not outright but did reimburse the amount with discount on next purchase which is kind of a joke.

 

[RICK NAPIER]

rpjaj5 I hope this review was not to intense as you see your dealing with a highly qualified group and as you can see by some of the more interesting looking posts way to much time on thier hands. It keeps me on my toes seeing the detail this group can extract from a simple picture or question. I look hard at my inspections imagining one of these guys following up and judging the work I have done.