exterior gfi off kitchen gfi circuit
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- Massachusetts
Do you have a code book?
jumper
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- 3 Hr 2 Min from Winged Horses
If you do not have a copy, you can access the NEC here:
http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/list_of_codes_and_standards.asp
It is free when you join.
http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/list_of_codes_and_standards.asp
It is free when you join.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
No you can not. There was a time when the NEC allowed it off the kitchen or bathroom circuit but not any longer.
jumper
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- 3 Hr 2 Min from Winged Horses
Dennis, I think the idea was to get the OP familiar with trying to understand the NEC.
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
Yep, but if I asked a question I would want an answer or at least a direction to go in.
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- Massachusetts
It was .........
If the OP had answered back I was more than willing to point them in the right direction, now he already has his answer. :roll:
Buck Parrish
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- NC & IN
The Op's married to an electrician 
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
The Op's married to an electrician
No, he is married to it-- it being electricity.
- Location
- Lockport, IL
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- Semi-Retired Electrical Engineer
jwelectric
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- North Carolina
550.13(E) Pipe Heating Cable(s) Outlet. For the connection of
pipe heating cable(s), a receptacle outlet shall be located on
the underside of the unit as follows:
(1) Within 600 mm (2 ft) of the cold water inlet.
(2) Connected to an interior branch circuit, other than a
small-appliance branch circuit. It shall be permitted to
use a bathroom receptacle circuit for this purpose.
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
Thanks , I did not know this but I doubt that is what an exterior receptacle, the op mentioned, is used for. :grin: I wonder why they allow this?
jwelectric
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- North Carolina
The reason I pointed this out was because to the number of calls I get about double wide mobile homes that have this type of installation.
The reason this is allowed is because mobile homes are governed by HUD. I am not sure just where they stand today but in the start of the 2002 cycle HUD was mandating the electrical installation in mobile homes by, I believe I am not sure, the 1993 cycle.
The reason this is allowed is because mobile homes are governed by HUD. I am not sure just where they stand today but in the start of the 2002 cycle HUD was mandating the electrical installation in mobile homes by, I believe I am not sure, the 1993 cycle.
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
I guess to save money on another GFCI. It's amazing to me what Hud can do and we cannot.
hurk27
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- Portage, Indiana NEC: 2008
There up to the 2005 NEC with many changes.
Can be viewed here:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...v8&view=text&node=24:5.1.4.1.1.9.13.1&idno=24
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- Tennessee NEC:2017
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- Semi-Retired Electrician
The circuit is allowed on the inside (bath) because if the GFCI was on the outside and it tripped for some reason, the HO might not know it for a while and the pipes might freeze. If it's on a circuit inside it will most likely be noticed and reset before any freezing of the pipes.
kwired
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
I will say yes, but not in a dwelling or some guest rooms or suites in hotels, motels, or similar as mentioned in 210.60.
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