Box fill? I don't need no stinkin box fill!

[hillbilly1]

Here is a j-box that feeds a 60 amp panel in an out building, I thought you guys and gals might get a kick out of this, there are 6#4with 8#12's spliced in this standard depth, two gang bell box. They have a short somewhere after it leaves here. I wonder why?:lol:

 

[hillbilly1]

And Yes, that is 3/4" pvc conduit that it is in!

 

[Dennis Alwon]

And the exposed copper-- who needs to worry about that

 

[marti smith]

I like the stake-on attached to nothing.

 

[jim dungar]

I like the stake-on attached to nothing.

The one that looks like it is attached to what appears to be a re-identified black conductor acting as a neutral?

 

[marti smith]

Hard to tell, but to me, it looks like the stake-on is crimped to a green (12?) that is on the far right side behind some of the other wires. I suspect they meant to bond their box and afterward "O darn, O well" and left it. Fits well with all the shoulda-woulda-coulda's of the whole thing.

 

[infinity]

Maybe the Stakon was connected to the cover screw. Seen that done quite often.

 

[marti smith]

And Yes, that is 3/4" pvc conduit that it is in!

So now the million dollar question: do you get to make it all correct, beautiful, and functional and give our industry a good name? No pressure-

 

[mark32]

How did they manage to get two #4's into that wirenut?

 

[cowboyjwc]

I've told this story before, but I had a guy stuff a conduit full of wire and I told him "you can't do that" and he got this really stupid look on his face and I said "I'm sorry, obviously you can do that because you did, but you're not allowed to." "ohhhhh":happyno:

 

[hurk27]

on the right I see what looks like a #8 or#6 could that be the EGC they ran with the #4's? other then box fill, box bonding, and pipe fill, I dont see a problem:lol:

 

[suemarkp]

How big is that box? With #4 conductors doing a U pull and 3/4" conduit, you'd need 6 * 3/4" = 4.5" to the opposite wall. Looks close. There are probably plenty of cubic inches for the smaller conductors after that.

If he'd used the proper 1" conduit, then the box would be too small since it would need to be 6" from wall to wall.

 

[hillbilly1]

I pulled it all apart, and found it was actually#2, instead of #4! They are coming into the back of the box with 3#12's, 1#10, and 3#2's. The pipe on the left has the #12's leaving the box, and the pipe on the right has the 3#2's and 1#10 leaving the box. It goes about 30' and turns up in a 4x4x4 PVC j-box, making a "U" turn down into a 1" which goes another 30', and turns up into a 8x8x6 PVC j-box, which loops back out in a 1 1/4" to the nema 3R load center at the irrigation control panel. Apparently they decided after the first and second pulls, they needed a bigger pipe!

 

[stew]

add that the wire nuts are in an outdoor box with thier little cups pointed straight up to catch all the moisture they can!

 

[Sierrasparky]

Yep those wire nuts pointed up to catch the moisture is great for call backs.