Jerseydaze
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My supply house was stocking MC AP and are not any more because "no one was buying it" has anyone had a problem with it? It seams like a nice little labor saver.
anything wrong with MC AP
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sd4524
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I thought it was awesome. Never had any problems with it. I used it for residential condos and it was great making up 3 and 4 gang boxes and saving space for dimmers. Making up a full unit full of recess lights went much faster too.
peter d
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That simply proves that people are resistant to change and new products. I don't use MC cable much, but if I did on a regular basis I would definitely use the MC-Ap product.
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- Massachusetts
Many of our specification require a copper EGC. Not saying they should, just that they do.
ceb58
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- Raeford, NC
I love the MC-AP but the last I checked it was about $400.00 per 1000' higher than regular MC. Hard to balance out the labor savings.
What the heck is MC AP?
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- Logan, Utah
It is a new type of MC cable that uses an aluminum bonding strip in conjunction with the metallic sheath to form the equipment grounding conductor and the non-health care grade stuff does not contain an insulated EGC.
I have used it and loved it. Was the same price as the standard MC cable.
HERE is a link to Southwire dealing with MCAP cable.
Chris
ceb58
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I picked some HCG MC I had ordered in today. I ask the manager "I thought sheath was painted green" He said the "other" mfg's price was 30% higher for the same thing with the green paint.:rant: This was the same wire less the paint.
Ohhhh, that.
Isn't that a glorified BX Cable?
People hated BX, glorified BX..... same thing
Isn't that a glorified BX Cable?
People hated BX, glorified BX..... same thing
peter d
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- New England
No, they are not the same thing at all. :happyno: MC-Ap has all the benefits of MC cable and does not require EGC terminations. Furthermore, it doesn't have that paper overwrap that is tedious to remove.
What I meant was it's a glorified BX, people hated BX, they'll hate a glorified BX as well(that's where the "same", same hate, not same as BX). Still a glorified BX.
Cow
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- Eastern Oregon
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How would you know if people will hate it if you've never even seen the stuff, let alone used it?
ksmith846
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- Port St Lucie, Florida
I know that here we have to have an EG inside of each raceway, so I would think that the MC AP would not be allowed here. Maybe that is why it has been discontinued in your area...??
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- Logan, Utah
makelymyday
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- Fort Collins, CO U.S.A.
What type of connector do you have to use for it? A screw clamp and a locking nut?
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- Logan, Utah
jimport
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- Outside Baltimore Maryland
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I know one jurisdiction that would not allow its use. They do not allow AL conductors smaller than like a #6. Since SW said it had a #12 AL conductor it was not allowed. Had it been a #12 bond wire it would have been fine.
It IS actually a bond wire. It is not a conductor that is terminated in the box, thus the labor savings. Simply use listed fittings and go.
Are you sure about this? The experience I had with ap was that the fittings had to be listed for it, meaning the box was stamped ap or something like that. From what I remember the fitting was a snap in type speed lock there were no screws to it at all.
Just read something that stated the fitting must be listed for mci-a I'llcheck a Def box of mc fittings and see.
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