kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
With romex stretcher you only need to stock 10AWG and you can always stretch it into 12 or 14 AWG
It is much cheaper than hiring an estimator:happyyes:
How many foot of NM it will take
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With romex stretcher you only need to stock 10AWG and you can always stretch it into 12 or 14 AWG
It is much cheaper than hiring an estimator:happyyes:
petersonra
Senior Member
- Location
- Northern illinois
- Occupation
- engineer
With romex stretcher you only need to stock 10AWG and you can always stretch it into 12 or 14 AWG
It is much cheaper than hiring an estimator:happyyes:
Also a lot more expensive.
renosteinke
Senior Member
- Location
- NE Arkansas
"Master Suite, Kitchen and the Garage will be poorly lit "
There's a red flag!
Seems building departments want you to run the design througha DOE program, to certify it meets certain 'energy efficiency' requirements. That is, the government counts your lights, and pushes you toward fewer lights and more fluorescent lights. Looks like your print was made with that in mind.
Net result: as soon as they cet the C of O, the homeowner will start adding lights all over the place. Suddenly you have 20 amps of cans on a 15 amp circuit. Oops.
Watch out for this snake - it will bite you!
There's a red flag!
Seems building departments want you to run the design througha DOE program, to certify it meets certain 'energy efficiency' requirements. That is, the government counts your lights, and pushes you toward fewer lights and more fluorescent lights. Looks like your print was made with that in mind.
Net result: as soon as they cet the C of O, the homeowner will start adding lights all over the place. Suddenly you have 20 amps of cans on a 15 amp circuit. Oops.
Watch out for this snake - it will bite you!
rt66electric
Senior Member
- Location
- Oklahoma
more lights, more,lights more lights,
more lights, more,lights more lights,
I agree More lights upsell directly to the home owner. I tend to over-wire more than the bare minimun. I ofter get the calls two years later-- Homeowner "Why did they not add-- morelights,3-way switches, undercabinet lights, recept here, recept there, etc,"
My reply " It would have cost an extra $25 then , now it will cost $600" I would rather have a customer say 'he did a good job, but expensive" , rather than "should have put in this or that in."
7000 ft 12/2 and 500ft 12/3
dual switches for all fan/lights
did anyone put in a conduit for kitchen island etc.
If you are putting in a conduit to island, can your add one for the AC?
A diffucult 18ft ceiling custom house can be made much easiler with UG conduit to stategic locations.
more lights, more,lights more lights,
I agree More lights upsell directly to the home owner. I tend to over-wire more than the bare minimun. I ofter get the calls two years later-- Homeowner "Why did they not add-- morelights,3-way switches, undercabinet lights, recept here, recept there, etc,"
My reply " It would have cost an extra $25 then , now it will cost $600" I would rather have a customer say 'he did a good job, but expensive" , rather than "should have put in this or that in."
7000 ft 12/2 and 500ft 12/3
dual switches for all fan/lights
did anyone put in a conduit for kitchen island etc.
If you are putting in a conduit to island, can your add one for the AC?
A diffucult 18ft ceiling custom house can be made much easiler with UG conduit to stategic locations.
Fulthrotl
~Autocorrect is My Worst Enema.~
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- E
if you can deal directly with the homeowner, your best solution is to explain that your price is going
to reflect that you are going to use a LOT more home runs that the plans warrant, so that you can
add lights later that they want.
and they will.
in a house that size, i've put in over 100 can lights. ADDITIONAL can lights.
also, see if you can upsell them on LED lighting. you can add LED can lights till your eyes squint
without loading much of anything up.
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
ptonsparky
Tom
- Occupation
- EC - retired
..except the invoices
Yes:thumbsup::thumbsup:
The material is just one part of the total cost process, lost time from schedule problems can cost you a lot more then some cable measure losses, and poor layout planning.
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