jimingram
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Receptacle cover in lieu of tr receptacle
tr receptacles
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ptonsparky
Tom
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Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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seems it would have made more sense to make TR a listing requirement instead of a code issue, JMO.
If I need to go to local farm supply store (we non longer have local "hardware" store) to pick up a receptacle for whatever reason, they don't carry any TR or WR versions.
Supply house and big box store are both ~ 40 miles away. I need to keep my own stock or use whatever is available if I happen to run out. Jobs that get inspected have to wait or at least need to make a second trip whey I can supply the required item.
If I need to go to local farm supply store (we non longer have local "hardware" store) to pick up a receptacle for whatever reason, they don't carry any TR or WR versions.
Supply house and big box store are both ~ 40 miles away. I need to keep my own stock or use whatever is available if I happen to run out. Jobs that get inspected have to wait or at least need to make a second trip whey I can supply the required item.
hbiss
EC, New York NEC: 2017
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- Little Falls, New York NEC: 2017
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- EC
My opinion also that I've voiced before. What's the harm in making all our 5-15 and 5-20 receptacles with internal shutters to cover the slots (TR) so that foreign objects can't be inserted or dirt or paint won't get into them? Sounds like a design improvement to me.
Unfortunately the manufacturers and the NEC chose the heavy handed (or maybe self serving) approach to get what they labeled "tamper resistant" receptacles in use by citing the usual bogus statistics on how many children were injured by inserting objects into receptacles. It's always "for the children".
If manufacturers just made the decision to redesign receptacles just as they did to prevent backstabbing of #12 conductors, adding pressure plate terminations, self grounding, etc. Don't even call them TR or tamper resistant. The new design is to keep junk out of the receptacle. There would probably be little concern, and no new article in the NEC to make you have to think about where and where not to use them.
-Hal
hbiss
EC, New York NEC: 2017
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- Little Falls, New York NEC: 2017
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- EC
As a side note, I once had a wall full of receptacles that backed up to a storage attic that was ventilated with a roof mushroom fan. Customer called about a receptacle not working. I removed it to find that it was PACKED with dust from the negative pressure on the backside pulling dust in through the slots from the room. All the others were the same way. I was thinking that pulling out a vacuum cleaner plug while the machine was running could have ignited it.
So shuttered slots are a benefit that has nothing to do with "the children".
-Hal
So shuttered slots are a benefit that has nothing to do with "the children".
-Hal
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