above ground pool questions

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Stevenfyeager

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I thought an above ground pool requires a twist lock pump outlet. ? (reading 680) Also, I read on another jurisdiction publication saying that circuit had to be 'continuous to the panel.' Not sure what that means, and I don't see that in 680. Another question: 680.13 says a disconnect must be visible within sight of equipment. I know a spa requires this, but does a pool ?
Its been a while since I've done a pool, thank you.
 
All pool equipment (except pool lights) requires a disconnect within sight. The twistlock would depend on what the pump motor has on it. Either way, it requires GFCI protection. Nothing that I know of says circuit has to be continuous except the EGC for pool lights in a permanently installed pool, with some exceptions.
 
Little Bill said:
All pool equipment (except pool lights) requires a disconnect within sight. The twistlock would depend on what the pump motor has on it. Either way, it requires GFCI protection. Nothing that I know of says circuit has to be continuous except the EGC for pool lights in a permanently installed pool, with some exceptions.
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We haven't had to do an equipotential ground here for hot tubs or above ground pools. It was required for a while for hot tubs but not recently. Is that a particular year NEC ? Thank you.
 
Stevenfyeager said:
We haven't had to do an equipotential ground here for hot tubs or above ground pools. It was required for a while for hot tubs but not recently. Is that a particular year NEC ? Thank you.
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Any pool with a 42" or greater depth gets treated as a permanent pool and requires an equipotential bond, either grid or alternate means of a #8 bare.

What does this have to do with your OP?
 
Even now, after talking with the elec inspector, equipotential bonding is not required for this customer with a 54" deep above ground pool. But I found the greater than 42 " deep definition in the 2008 NEC book he is using, so I have to do it. I've never installed this bonding, it says 4 places of connection , and the pump. 4 - 6 " deep, 18-24" around perimeter. But what kind of connections ? What kind of connectors ? Any help is appreciated.
 
Lay-in lugs, split bolts, both rated for direct burial. Stainless Steel bolts & nuts
Bolt the lay-in lugs to the areas required. You can either run a continuous ring, weaving in to the lugs, or use a jumper split bolted to the ring. The pump will have a lug on it already.
 
Little Bill said:
Lay-in lugs, split bolts, both rated for direct burial. Stainless Steel bolts & nuts
Bolt the lay-in lugs to the areas required. You can either run a continuous ring, weaving in to the lugs, or use a jumper split bolted to the ring. The pump will have a lug on it already.
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Ok thanks. For attaching the #8 to the pool shell (if metal) or other metal parts, what kind of connector do I use ? I've seen lugs on pumps like you mentioned, but not sure about how to connect to other parts. Thanks
 
Equip. bonding for hot tubs ? We don't install a eq. grid or bonding here but there was in years past a requirement for this for hot tubs in this area. Then it was deleted. Is there any requirement for a hot tub needing an eq. bonding, for example it a deck is built around the tub ? Thanks.
 
Yes there is.. 680.42(B)

Equipotential bonding of perimeter surfaces in accordance
with 680.26(B)(2) shall not be required to be provided for spas
and hot tubs where all of the following conditions apply:
(1) The spa or hot tub shall be listed, labeled, and identified
as a self-contained spa for aboveground use.
(2) The spa or hot tub shall not be identified as suitable only
for indoor use.
(3) The installation shall be in accordance with the manufacturer’s
instructions and shall be located on or above
grade.
(4) The top rim of the spa or hot tub shall be at least 710 mm
(28 in.) above all perimeter surfaces that are within
760 mm (30 in.), measured horizontally from the spa or
hot tub. The height of nonconductive external steps for
entry to or exit from the self-contained spa shall not be
used to reduce or increase this rim height measurement.
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