Meter Socket Enclosure/Panel Swap Out

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Replacing this old round 60 amp rated meter socket enclosure with a new 125 rated Milbank meter socket enclosure and replacing existing 100amp panel with new 100amp panel. My question is, can I reuse the what looks like a 1 1/4" threadless rigid coupling going into the bottom of the existing meter on the new meter socket enclosure I will be installing? And can I reuse the, what looks like, 1 1/4" threaded connector to screw into the 1 1/4" hub that will be coming with the new meter socket enclosure? Just trying to have the correct parts needed to avoid making several trips. Thanks in advance for any advice.
 

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I'd pull the service conductors out of the mast,
ditch the 1-1/4 reducer on the Mast and just use a 2" hub on the new meter and try to crank that baby into the hub with a big pipe wrench.
 
Looks like the 1-1/4" adapter is inside the 2" pipe. Is that just sleeved?

2" threadless connector into a 2" hub

POCOs here wouldn't allow 1-1/4....minimum 2"
 
Thanks, good information. I ended up getting a seasoned resi-guy to help with the install, so should go well. One of your suggestions is probably what we will end up doing. Thanks again.
 
I feel like I've been here before. Didn't the forum previously conclude that the hub is not listed for a connector? Has to be straight threaded conduit going into the hub? I feel like that's where a pervious debate ended.
 
Jerramundi said:
I feel like I've been here before. Didn't the forum previously conclude that the hub is not listed for a connector? Has to be straight threaded conduit going into the hub? I feel like that's where a pervious debate ended.
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No debate, the hub is listed for RMC and IMC only. I would estimate that about 5% of all services here are RMC the other 95% are violations. I would guess that it similar in other locales across the country.
 
infinity said:
No debate, the hub is listed for RMC and IMC only. I would estimate that about 5% of all services here are RMC the other 95% are violations. I would guess that it similar in other locales across the country.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for clarifying.
 
I'm under the impression that utility companies aren't bound by NEC requirements, and are not subjected to inspection requirements.

In short, they self-govern.
And if a self-governing body (or their representative) approves an installation, there simply is no such thing as "non-compliant" or "violation"
 
James L said:
I'm under the impression that utility companies aren't bound by NEC requirements, and are not subjected to inspection requirements.

In short, they self-govern.
And if a self-governing body (or their representative) approves an installation, there simply is no such thing as "non-compliant" or "violation"
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They do have their own rules and generally follow the NESC. Not sure how that would apply to the OP's installation. Around here the NEC would begin at the service point, the point where the POCO drop connects to the riser.
 
James L said:
Looks like the 1-1/4" adapter is inside the 2" pipe. Is that just sleeved?

2" threadless connector into a 2" hub

POCOs here wouldn't allow 1-1/4....minimum 2"
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That is an odd-looking connection into the old meter pan, for sure. 2 in. pipe definitely does not look threaded, so you're stuck using a fitting.
 
infinity said:
They do have their own rules and generally follow the NESC. Not sure how that would apply to the OP's installation. Around here the NEC would begin at the service point, the point where the POCO drop connects to the riser.
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Around here, every POCO governs the riser and meter also. They have their own spec sheets, and each one has a minimum size conduit with strapping requirements.

POCOs here allow RMC threadless connector, or PVC riser with MTA screwed into the hub. They allow offset nipple screwed into the hub with RMC coupling to the pipe. I've even used EMT with compression connector. Cities here have no say-so
 
ptonsparky said:
No, pull the old out, thread it, or buy a new stick of conduit. The rubber on the roof flashing is probably at EOL anyway.
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Well, you're right, that's the best way, instead of using a threadless connector, which a lot of localities would accept.
 
Eli1211 said:
Replacing this old round 60 amp rated meter socket enclosure with a new 125 rated Milbank meter socket enclosure and replacing existing 100amp panel with new 100amp panel. My question is, can I reuse the what looks like a 1 1/4" threadless rigid coupling going into the bottom of the existing meter on the new meter socket enclosure I will be installing? And can I reuse the, what looks like, 1 1/4" threaded connector to screw into the 1 1/4" hub that will be coming with the new meter socket enclosure? Just trying to have the correct parts needed to avoid making several trips. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Sounds just like what I had passed on Monday. 1 1/4" PVC mast into a 1 1/4" transition adapter. Which is a fancy name for a box connector. Adapter screwed directly to the 1 1/4" hub used on the Milbank meter sockets. On the bottom, just knock out a hole and use a 1 1/4" adapter and continued with PVC from there to the panel.
 
Eli:

Looks like you have what we call in northern Illinois a "mast kit". The fitting at the bottom is used to reduce the pipe from (Com Ed rules) 2/12 for a 100 amp service to 1 1/4 for a meter hub. "Down here" you can re-use the fitting and go to an 1 1/4 hub. You might want to check with the local power company and see if they have a rule book that will tell you what is acceptable for a service mast that supports the incoming power drop (I only know what Com Ed requires, as I am Chicago not Wisconsin licensed).

Hope this helps, feel free to E-mail me, if I can be of any other assistance.


Howard
 
This looks to be the fitting at the top of the meter socket..........https://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/p/M-W-2700-X-2-1-2In-1-1-4In-Aluminum-Slipfitter-Offset-Bottom-Reducer/6446788

It is an M&W products reducer made for this purpose. The complete "mast kit" is an M&W SM-250BF1

I have used a few of these where the house and eaves are too low to get proper clearance for the service drop.


Howard
 
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