Manual Transfer Panel Problem

[mkgrady]

I bought a manual transfer panel made by Reliance. It worked great. It was for a 100 amp service. It had a 100 amp breaker and a 30 amp breaker and outgoing lugs to connect a load. I used it on a 100 amp service that had a meter/main outside and a MLO panel inside. I put this panel right next to the meter main outside No problems.

I went to my supplier and told him I now wanted the same thing only for a 200 amp service. What he sent does not seem usable. Just like the 100 amp above it had two breakers. One was rated 30 amps and the other was 200 amps with an interlock but the only output was a typical load center bus with multiple spaces (about 20). The breakers are Siemens. I need a way to connect a 200 amp output to the bus.I don't see any way to connect directly to the bus. I'm happy to just plug in a 200 amp breaker or some type of lug kit but I can find anything made to do that. The supplier has no ideas.

I know I can just start over and get a three position manual transfer switch but this was a special order for my supplier. It took a month to get it and I don't want to return it because he will be stuck with it. If it were an indoor panel with 40 circuits I would just save it for the next service change job. Around here nobody installs panels outdoors and 20 circuits is not very useful for a 200 amp service

 

[mopowr steve]

I would think they have a sub feed lug kit, but if not I wonder if their Trailer Panel series would work. You can get that with 200 main breaker and it has 8 spaces with sub feed lugs. Only thing is you would have to put in the interlock kit yourself, not sure if its spacing configuration has a interlock kit designed for it though.

 

[suemarkp]

Can you get a 200A subfeed kit for that Siemens panel? It may need 4 spaces.

 

[mopowr steve]

Can you get a 200A subfeed kit for that Siemens panel? It may need 4 spaces.

Yeah, last one I saw would span across the buss. Using up 2 left spaces and 2 right spaces.
Not sure if it was a Siemens though.

 

[mopowr steve]

I just got to thinking, there is a meter/disco that I’ve used in the past that utilizes a Siemens main breaker that plugs onto the buss. Can’t remember what frame ID it is, but it also spans the buss in the same manner.

 

[mkgrady]

Can you get a 200A subfeed kit for that Siemens panel? It may need 4 spaces.

This would be perfect if it exists. Anybody know?

 

[Eddie702]

Just bought a 125 amp for a Eaton Br. I think Square D used to have them for the QO. Don't know about Siemens

 

[mopowr steve]

Siemens QN series of breakers.
I have to do some digging as far as sub feed kit

 

[ppsh]

ECLK2225 is the plug on 225a 2 pole lug block. 2 spaces high, both left and right.

 

[mkgrady]

Q2200B did the trick. The breaker is by ITE. I assume it has been on a shelf for a long time. It just plugged into four spaces.

 

[mopowr steve]

Yeah, that’s the older version.
The newer breaker is a QN2200R, which takes up 2 space left, 2 space right instead of the 4 consecutive spaces that one takes.

 

[hillbilly1]

Q2200B did the trick. The breaker is by ITE. I assume it has been on a shelf for a long time. It just plugged into four spaces.

There is probably no hole for the hold down screw. Done that before on a temporary, had to drill and tap the can for the hold down screw.

 

[mopowr steve]

There is probably no hole for the hold down screw. Done that before on a temporary, had to drill and tap the can for the hold down screw.

I think that only applies if it is used as a main breaker, non-the-less it definitely helps hold the breaker in place with those big wires.

 

[hillbilly1]

I think that only applies if it is used as a main breaker, non-the-less it definitely helps hold the breaker in place with those big wires.

I wouldn’t put that big of a breaker in without it.

 

[mkgrady]

There is probably no hole for the hold down screw. Done that before on a temporary, had to drill and tap the can for the hold down screw.

There is no hole for the hold down. I can easily tap the can but I would not know where to drill the breaker. I’ll try to think of something to hold it in place.