Wago Propaganda

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mbrooke

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Not sure I agree with all the claims in this video. Never heard that a wire nut can only be used once or needs to be cutoff and re-done after its been made up. With that said a video telling everyone to use wagos and not wire nuts:


 
For people that are not used to using wire nuts like the average homeowner or the
British I think a Wago may be a good idea.
 
From the UL Guide Information for "Wire Connectors and Soldering Lugs (ZMVV)".
Reusability — Wire connectors have not been investigated for reusability. Reusability should be determined by the installer and the Authority Having Jurisdiction.
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Carry Lever Lock connectors onboard.
Used as listed where Wirenuts don't fit, 60°C max
No callbacks for 222 model in 10yrs of occasional convenience-outlet use.
Have not used 221 line Hazardous location, or #10 30A
Not listed for aluminum branch wiring in North America.
 
There is a right way to use wire nuts. (lets not get into the pre-twist or not discussion) When not installed properly, they would be worse than wagos.
I would not reuse a wire nut except maybe for a temporary connection
 
I like wagos especially when hooking up temp lighting that will be changed out to permanent later using the stranded to solid wire connections. It takes longer to get up the ladder than it does to make the change with wago. I guess I'm just lazy.
 
I would never re-use a wire nut or a Wago.
I just don't. I learned a long time ago that one of the best ways to have a call-back is to install used materials.

I'll make a special exception if a repair/replacement item is just not available new.

But if re-using a Wago is the biggest pitch, I'm out.
 
joebeadg said:
he's saying a single hand can make the connection while showing two hands making it. How can you make a splice with one hand???
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After wire is made up (insulation stripped back) you can (if wire is not stranded, or pre terminate wago onto fixture) reach up one handed and slide wago onto conductors one at a time and locking them in. I've done that when I had to hold light fixture up with my one hand and make the connection with the other, can't do that with a twist on wirenut.
 
That video makes a huge mistake by 'Dale Carnegie ' standards: talking down the competition. This guy makes wire-nuts out to be little better than splicing with chewing gum. Since wire-nuts do a fine job, anyone watching this video who has a clue will call bs.

I really like the wago levernuts. For my use I greatly prefer them to wire-nuts. I like that I don't need to create a twisted bundle. I like that I can remove one wire of a set without messing with the others. But I don't need to lie about wire-nuts to say that.

Also on the two hand thing: when he first said 'need two hands' I think he misspoke and meant 'need three hands' eg being on a ladder wishing you could have someone else up there.

Jon
 
For situations with more than three conductors - particularly 14 and 12 AWG general lighting/receptacle uses, I do prefer the multiport devices over twist on devices, but will often use them with two and three conductors as well.

Do not reuse a twist on when your wire combination is smaller than the original use - connector likely been stretched by previous use and won't hold as well as a new one will.

I have little problem reusing a twist on if putting same conductors back into it that it started with, say you are temporarily opening a connection for troubleshooting.
 
kwired said:
I have little problem reusing a twist on if putting same conductors back into it that it started with, say you are temporarily opening a connection for troubleshooting.
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I'll toss the old wirenut every time.
I for sure agree with putting it on a smaller bunch that it's stretched. But I don't take the chance at all. They're too cheap to re-use, imho
 
James L said:
I'll toss the old wirenut every time.
I for sure agree with putting it on a smaller bunch that it's stretched. But I don't take the chance at all. They're too cheap to re-use, imho
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I'm getting too old and fat to crawl all the way from far end of a crawlspace just to retrieve a wirenut because I undid it and didn't have a replacement with me. Will reconnect and give the conductors a good tug to be certain they are secure whether new or used over.

When practical I do replace a majority of them if I took them apart particularly on 14 -10 AWG solid conductors.
 
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