Arc fault breakers

[Damianb86]

Hi everyone. Im changing panel and all devices and and couple of lights/receptacle circuits has shared neutral. I have to install arc faults. What would be the best solution? (This is remodeled job/already finished). Thank you


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[Little Bill]

Who says you need to add arc fault (AFCI)? If you didn't add any new circuits, or extend any circuits more than 6', then AFCI isn't required on just a panel change.

 

[electrofelon]

Who says you need to add arc fault (AFCI)? If you didn't add any new circuits, or extend any circuits more than 6', then AFCI isn't required on just a panel change.

He changed the devices. He could use AFCI receps at the first outlet.

 

[Little Bill]

He changed the devices. He could use AFCI receps at the first outlet.

We don't have to add AFCI for device changes either. At least the inspectors don't require it.

 

[suemarkp]

What is your breaker type? Some make double pole AFCIs, but they seem to be disappearing. Depending on what these serve, you could double up the hots and convert it to a single pole circuit. But you may need to run some new single pole circuits to provide adequate power or code compliant outlets (e.g. if a multiwire branch circuit provides the two kitchen small appliance circuits, you would have to split it somewhere and refeed half with a new circuit if you condensed the multiwire to single pole).

 

[electrofelon]

We don't have to add AFCI for device changes either. At least the inspectors don't require it.

Does your area have an amendment deleting 406.4(D)(4) or are the inspectors just not enforcing it?

 

[Little Bill]

Does your area have an amendment deleting 406.4(D)(4) or are the inspectors just not enforcing it?

I think they just use common sense. Why would you not have to add AFCI protection for a complete panel change but do have to add it just for a receptacle swap?

 

[tthh]

Was not required the last one I quoted a few years ago. Asked the inspector beforehand just to be sure.

 

[electrofelon]

I think they just use common sense. Why would you not have to add AFCI protection for a complete panel change but do have to add it just for a receptacle swap?

Hey, I hate afci's and the NFPA/NEC, I'm just telling you what the code says. Your jurisdiction should formally amend it if they aren't going to enforce it.

 

[ptonsparky]

Are they circuits you can combine without much of an issue ?