Ductwork violation?

Status
Not open for further replies.
C

chicagosparky

Member
Location
Chicago, IL
Quick question, we're doing a new construction single family in Chicago. The tin knocker mentioned our electrical panel could not be installed under his supply runs. Before I run the ground, was curious if anyone else heard of that. We're more than 5 feet in from outside wall so have to concrete encase incoming feeders and before we do that, want to make sure panel can stay where it is.
Duct.jpg
 
How do you plan to get all your EMT's into the panel ? I would be more concerned with the water lines above the panel.
 
Who was there first?
Could be his duct work can’t be above your panel…
 
Clear cut violation of 110.26(E)(1):

(a) Dedicated Electrical Space. The space equal to the width and depth of the equipment and extending from the floor to a height of 1.8 m (6 ft) above the equipment or to the structural ceiling, whichever is lower, shall be dedicated to the electrical installation. No piping, ducts, leak protection apparatus, or other equipment foreign to the electrical installation shall be located in this zone.
Click to expand...
 
chicagosparky said:
Quick question, we're doing a new construction single family in Chicago. The tin knocker mentioned our electrical panel could not be installed under his supply runs. Before I run the ground, was curious if anyone else heard of that. We're more than 5 feet in from outside wall so have to concrete encase incoming feeders and before we do that, want to make sure panel can stay where it is..
Click to expand...

It depends on where the structural ceiling will be. It doesn't look good.
 
Once again, electrician 2nd class citizen. Electrical code does not matter to other trades. Whose there first doesn't matter. Just try to AHJ to have other trades move, NOT likely.
Interesting that these other trades desperate to get a roughin electrical and temp circuits in so to make their work easier, then YOU are forced to move so to meet NEC requirements. Seen it over and over again, with "I've got no other place to run my heat ducts," or "my plumbing".
Would it be different if the mechanical was put onto the prints for residential 1, 2 family construction plans? Don't know how enforceable design prints are. Every residential plans I've seen with engineers stamp, none gave mechanical prints.
 
goldstar said:
That caveat only seems to apply to us electricians. Moving duct work or plumbing pipes somehow never seems to be an option for those trades :cool:
Click to expand...
There may be recovery available if that is where the design put all the components. Let the architect/engineer deal with the headache. If everything is field coordinated, it should go back to the GC for adjustment. If it's a free-for-all; well, I got nothin'.
 
david luchini said:
Can't imagine that the water lines are in front of the panelboard when the emt that leaves the top of the panelboard is in front of the water lines.
Click to expand...
The EMT must be kicked. Looking at the studs, the water looks to be in front over the panelboard.
 
chicagosparky said:
Quick question, we're doing a new construction single family in Chicago. The tin knocker mentioned our electrical panel could not be installed under his supply runs. Before I run the ground, was curious if anyone else heard of that. We're more than 5 feet in from outside wall so have to concrete encase incoming feeders and before we do that, want to make sure panel can stay where it is.
View attachment 2559654
Click to expand...
could be minimum working height clearance issues also.

Easy fix? build a "bump out" wall to get panel forward enough to have the needed clearance above, turn panel over so main is on bottom and the conductors already run will still reach.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top