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I have communication bar installed for new building which would bind the IT equipment etc etc. NEC 2017 section 250.96(B) does not say the wire size needed from the communication bar to the building ground bar which bas the grounding electrode system. Is their any code section that tells that in NEC 2017?
 
Wouldn't that be a chapter 8 issue and not article 250. Not sure what article in Chapter 8

Article 800 has this to say

800.100(A)(3) Size. The bonding conductor or grounding electrode
conductor shall not be smaller than 14 AWG. It shall have a
current-carrying capacity not less than the grounded metallic
sheath member(s) and protected conductor(s) of the communications
cable. The bonding conductor or grounding electrode
conductor shall not be required to exceed 6 AWG.
 
Wouldn't that be a chapter 8 issue and not article 250. Not sure what article in Chapter 8

Article 800 has this to say

I also have IT equipment being bonded to the communication bar not just primary protector. Have IT rooms inside buildings. Its more of communication systems bonding 250.94. I dont see how 800 apply
 
Have a note put on the plans "comply with NEC Section 250.94 and grounding/bonding requirements in Chapter 8"

Engineer provided from building external main service grounding electrode system bus #4 awg to the communication systems bar. I think that should be #3/0 awg because main service switchboard is 2000A and based on 250.66?

My main question is how to size if you are using NEC 2017 section 250.96(B) other means?
 
250.94(A)(4)(5) and Informational Note 1 reference a #6? Did you change your occupation description? Just noticed that.
 
IT systems are tricky and confusing. All IT equipment should be bonded through its power cord equipment ground. But some IT equipment has external grounding screw lugs. This is most common on network switches as those using shielded cable tend to want those shields separately grounded to an IT grounding bar. In every IT item I ever looked at, I could see nothing in the instructions mentioning that ground lug or indicating any conductors sizes. Many times, those screws were unused, especially if we weren't using shielded cabling.

When we did use them, jumpers from the IT equipment to the bar were the same or larger than what was in the circuit feeding the rack, with #10 being the most common choice. A separate bonding wire grounding the IT ground bar was typically #6 (perhaps using 250.94 as the reason -- no one ever said why). I see no reason to use table 250.66 unless you intend to ground large transformers to it, and the IT people usually do not want to use a "power ground". They used to want Isolated Ground receptacles for everything too, but that seems to have finally waned.
 
IT systems are tricky and confusing. All IT equipment should be bonded through its power cord equipment ground. But some IT equipment has external grounding screw lugs. This is most common on network switches as those using shielded cable tend to want those shields separately grounded to an IT grounding bar. In every IT item I ever looked at, I could see nothing in the instructions mentioning that ground lug or indicating any conductors sizes. Many times, those screws were unused, especially if we weren't using shielded cabling.

When we did use them, jumpers from the IT equipment to the bar were the same or larger than what was in the circuit feeding the rack, with #10 being the most common choice. A separate bonding wire grounding the IT ground bar was typically #6 (perhaps using 250.94 as the reason -- no one ever said why). I see no reason to use table 250.66 unless you intend to ground large transformers to it, and the IT people usually do not want to use a "power ground". They used to want Isolated Ground receptacles for everything too, but that seems to have finally waned.

I could see if you are using intersystem bonding termination then NEC 2017 section 250.96(A) would give you #6 awg.

However for using bus bars their is no mention of sizing the bonding jumper in NEC 2017 section 250.96(B)?


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But engineer did provide #4 awg but not sure if its sized right nothing in NEC 2017 Section 250.96(B)?

It isn't going to be larger than #4 so just install it and don't worry about it. Why are you questioning the engineer? When I questioned them I called them directly.
 
Not in the NEC.
IT designers have company standards, they often follow BICSI or ANSI.
you should as suggested ask the engineer.
 
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