EV charger receptacles

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hbiss said:
Usually warranties are three years. I see eight years for the batteries from your link. I have an 09' F-150 that I use every day.

-Hal
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Right, my Ford’s battery is warranted for 8 years, 100K miles.

My practical rule of thumb for lithium batteries is they should be good for 1000 full charge cycles. That’s 270K miles based on the cars range. I think the average driver in the US drives about 12K per year, so 20 years should be easily doable. Since I retired, I’m closer to 10K per year on the car. I also have pickup that I put another 5K per year on.
 
Plus with less maintenance on the rest of the drivetrain, people might find it affordable to actually replace the batteries after 10-15 years. The motor will be like almost new as compared to an ICE.
 
ramsy said:
My guess in 10 years more people will replace their ICE vehicles with hydrogen infrastructures, competing with higher cost of electricity demand. Hydrogen hubs are already being built in your state.

www.csis.org

Hydrogen Hubs Proposals: Guideposts for the Future of the U.S. Hydrogen Economy

The Department of Energy expects to support six to eight regional clean hydrogen hubs with funds from the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Around the country, 22 hub proposals are under development to vie for the funds.
www.csis.org www.csis.org

The hubs will provide the missing infrastructure for Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicles.
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Perhaps, but I'm skeptical and have been for a long time. Hydrogen is one of those things like nuclear fusion that always seems to be a decade away. (okay fusion is worse in this respect, but still). 20 years ago it seemed to be an open debate whether hydrogen or batteries would replace ICEs and you can see which one is winning. Plus we need a lot more renewables on the grid to make hydrolysis attractive from a policy standpoint, and initially the most economical use of it will be as storage for grid generation at large scale, not to be distributed down to small scale vehicle use.

Have you ever seen a hydrogen truck? They're a bit telling as to how impractical it is.
 
jaggedben said:
Have you ever seen a hydrogen truck? They're a bit telling as to how impractical it is.
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Nikola is one of many, per BAE Systems
645 Horse Power
900 Mile Range
20 Minute Hydrogen Refuel
No Battery
nikolamotor.com

Nikola Corporation - Sustainability Delivered Today

Nikola Class 8 Zero Emissions Semi Trucks - Driving the Future of Zero-Emissions
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The Ford F150 lightning could also run hydrogen, the problem is getting that $16 a gallon down with hydrogen hubs.
 
hbiss said:
Been thinking about this. I wouldn't get too excited about installing EV charger receptacles and chargers for the owners of EVs. One of the big drawbacks to EVs is the charging time. Nobody wants to wait four hours to recharge their car. My prediction is that the technology will improve to allow charging times comparable to refueling a gas powered vehicle BUT the amount of current will only be available at public charging stations that will replace gas stations.

Wadya think?

-Hal
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One state senator has introduced a bill prohibiting the operation of free EV chargers unless free gas and diesel are provided at the same location.
 
ramsy said:
Nikola is one of many, per BAE Systems
645 Horse Power
900 Mile Range
20 Minute Hydrogen Refuel
No Battery
nikolamotor.com

Nikola Corporation - Sustainability Delivered Today

Nikola Class 8 Zero Emissions Semi Trucks - Driving the Future of Zero-Emissions
nikolamotor.com nikolamotor.com

The Ford F150 lightning could also run hydrogen, the problem is getting that $16 a gallon down with hydrogen hubs.
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I meant a hydrogen transport truck, not a hydrogen powered truck. I'm talking about the relative difficulty of building out infrastructure for hydrogen storage and transport. Google 'hydrogen tube trailer' and ask yourself why transport trucks for other gasses and liquids don't look like that.

But the issue of the source of hydrogen looms over all that anyway.
 
GoldDigger said:
One state senator has introduced a bill prohibiting the operation of free EV chargers unless free gas and diesel are provided at the same location.
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I guess that could fair for a gas station (as most business don't have gas dispensing infrastructure) that also has free EV charging. One pump that will dispense 1 fl oz per minute of free hydrocarbons would be about the comparable order of magnitude for typical L2 EV charging. Doubt it would get much use.

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Cheers, Wayne
 
jaggedben said:
I'm talking about the relative difficulty of building out infrastructure for hydrogen storage and transport. Google 'hydrogen tube trailer'
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Hydrogen Hubs are being built along the Interstate gas transmission system.

Transmission pipelines — the large lines (typically 6-48. inches in diameter) that move gas long distances around the. country, often at high pressures (typically 200 – 1500 psi); or. • Distribution pipelines — are a system of mains and service. lines that deliver natural gas to our individual homes.

See "Deliver green hydrogen" section ACES Delta, Utah
 
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