One family dwelling RV attachment receptacle!

[Dennis Alwon]

Ok, so let's forget the OCPD issue and say I install a 4 wire range receptacle outside for a portable outside kitchen or my brothers RV when he comes to visit. Under the current code does it require GFCI protection? Is it a branch circuit or a feeder as far as the inspector is concerned?

Ok, so let's forget the OCPD issue and say I install a 4 wire range receptacle outside for a portable outside kitchen or my brothers RV when he comes to visit. Under the current code does it require GFCI protection? Is it a branch circuit or a feeder as far as the inspector is concerned?

That's a valid point. Ahj call imo

 

[letgomywago]

What code section would provide relief from the GFCI requirement for a pedestal located at a dwelling?

Yard isn't a dwelling unit. The rules for 551 could be counted on if there is more than 1 outlet since this could be counted as a "rv park"

 

[infinity]

Yard isn't a dwelling unit. The rules for 551 could be counted on if there is more than 1 outlet since this could be counted as a "rv park"

I'm not buying that stretch.

 

[letgomywago]

I'm not buying that stretch.

OK do 2 pedestals then

 

[suemarkp]

Yard isn't a dwelling unit. The rules for 551 could be counted on if there is more than 1 outlet since this could be counted as a "rv park"

I don't see a way to get rid of the GFCI requirement for outdoor receptacles between 15 and 50 amp, 120 to 250V.
210.8(A)(3) if at/on a dwelling
210.8(B)(6) if not at/on a dwelling
210.8(F) for dwelling and associated accessory building outlets

I you want to argue that a post mounted receptacle in a dwelling yard isn't covered by 210.8(A), then 210.8(B) would cover it.

 

[infinity]

I don't see a way to get rid of the GFCI requirement for outdoor receptacles between 15 and 50 amp, 120 to 250V.
210.8(A)(3) if at/on a dwelling
210.8(B)(6) if not at/on a dwelling
210.8(F) for dwelling and associated accessory building outlets

I you want to argue that a post mounted receptacle in a dwelling yard isn't covered by 210.8(A), then 210.8(B) would cover it.

Yeah the only argument that would allow the receptacle to not be GFCI protected is to argue that the yard adjacent to the dwelling is an RV park.

 

[Fred B]

I'm not buying that stretch.

Neither would I.

Yeah the only argument that would allow the receptacle to not be GFCI protected is to argue that the yard adjacent to the dwelling is an RV park.

Would 1 RV make it a "RV Park"?
If you try that, it might cause a property zoning class dispute, at least around here. They don't look twice if there is 1 or 2 RV's parked on a property but if it starts looking like a RV Park someone will take note. So before you start to call it a "RV Park", might want to contact zoning and codes office first.
Code wise 1 or 2 RV connections I would say you're stuck with a GFCI being required. Even 5 on an occasional family/friends use would still not be a "RV Park". IMO.