Pay for license EC
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hillbilly1
Senior Member
- Location
- North Georgia mountains
- Occupation
- Owner/electrical contractor
My previous employer would offer a dollar an hour increase for each license obtained, but I never saw it.
Yeah that’s what I’m afraid of, but it makes sense. Why would you want to pay for someone with a EC license unless you are partnering with them to start a contracting business.
hillbilly1
Senior Member
- Location
- North Georgia mountains
- Occupation
- Owner/electrical contractor
We worked nationwide, so some states required at least a journeyman’s license, so it was easier to send more help out of town if they were licensed. I have two masters and two journeyman’s licenses in four states. Two in the south, two in the north. They wanted me to get a Jersey license, but I told them I haven’t lost anything there! LOL!
Ohio is a weird state. We don’t have a state journeyman or master license. The only license we have is an electrical contractors license. We call it a masters license but it’s not, it’s a contractors license. I plan on getting it either way, but it would be nice if it would give me a pay bump when I got it. Also hoping if I were to jump ship, that it would make me more valuable to company that needs a license. This would be a tricky position to find I imagine however.
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
- Occupation
- EC
Here you must have an EC license to be able to file electrical permits. Only exception is homeowners filing a permit for work in their primary place of residence.
If a company owner doesn't hold an EC license, then they can't file permits, that would make that license worth a little something I would think. I know I wouldn't be letting some "employer" file permits under my EC license without being compensated fairly well. You also have to have insurance on file with the AHJ to file for permits (other than the homeowners) not sure just how that works out if you are the license holder but are essentially filing for some employer. Something tells me that probably doesn't happen all that often. What maybe does happen is an EC license holder may have some sort of a sub contract with said "employer" but the EC license holder still carries the insurance at least to the required levels to satisfy the AHJ for issuing permits.
I can continue to keep my EC license, even keep renewing it but not have insurance and still work for someone else, I basically become a journeyman though my license cost more to renew than an actual journeyman license holder's does, I can file permits again if I get the required insurance again.
Eddie702
Licensed Electrician
- Location
- Western Massachusetts
- Occupation
- Electrician
Around here a masters license and an electrical contractors license is the same thing. I had about 12 different state licenses at one time I dropped all but 3 now that i retired. never got a dime for any of them.
But they kept me employed for 46 years so I won't complain.
In MA you can pull permits and operate as a 1 man show (no employees in the field) with a Journeymen so I dropped my Masters. In MA you have to hold a Journeyman to use the tools. A Master cant do any work just run a business in MA
But they kept me employed for 46 years so I won't complain.
In MA you can pull permits and operate as a 1 man show (no employees in the field) with a Journeymen so I dropped my Masters. In MA you have to hold a Journeyman to use the tools. A Master cant do any work just run a business in MA
In Ohio a persons license is what allows a company to do work and the license holder has to carry the insurance. Maybe the “employer” can pay for the policy. Once you leave a company you have to wait an allotted time to before reusing your license at a different company, to allow that company to get another license I presume. If you send a written forfeiture of you license signed by the company you can use it again right away.
Did they help when switching companies when negotiating salary?
Strange you can’t wear tools, even if you want to, as a master.
hillbilly1
Senior Member
- Location
- North Georgia mountains
- Occupation
- Owner/electrical contractor
In Georgia, only one person in the company needs the license, though some counties or cities want the license holder to pull the permit in person. So occasionally I would have to pull the permit even though I wasn’t the company qualifying person. Arkansas I could supervise without a license, but couldn’t do any work.
Eddie702
Licensed Electrician
- Location
- Western Massachusetts
- Occupation
- Electrician
That was the old way. MA started licensing electricians in 1914. In 1915 my grandfather was licensed in MA. He had a pretty low license number. I think he was around 21 years old at the time. Never met him. Someone turned the power on when he was working in 1930 so that was that.
Originally in MA they let some in and test if they wanted a Masters License only. With the Masters they could run a business, hire journeymen and apprentices and pull permits.
Now, if you want to get the masters you have to get the JM and hold that for 1 year then take the masters test. Once you do that you can drop the JM if you are never going to work and just run a business.
but a JM can pull permits and work alone and run a 1 man shop, many do that and never get a masters.
In dukes of hazard Pa the politicians have been working on a state license since 1964. Worst part some townships do not recognise any other electrical licenses. Cheap hospital that I retired from required electricians to have a city of Philadelphia electrical license . They only paid the yearly $165 license fee but not the money or time spent attending eight hours of continuing education every year.. They told us they wanted us to pull small electrical.permits but told them nope not today not ever! They provided over a million dollar liability insurance. Philly is different then other towns, make you jump thru too many hoops. Even make you show proof of vehicle insurance before they will renew a license. To!d them in all my years never performed electrical work while driving. Even made us take a OSHA 10 Class one year to renew license. Bosses had to an OSHA 30 Class.
Eddie702
Licensed Electrician
- Location
- Western Massachusetts
- Occupation
- Electrician
In MA a factory for instance can hire a JM who works for them as an employee and he can do any electrical work needed onsite only. They don't need permits but must notify the inspector and must keep a log book of all electrical work they do on site. The electrical inspector.has the right to inspect at any time
Not sure if it changed in Philadelphia but back in thex1970 & 80' s both companies that I worked for paid $500 for company employees perform electrical work without pulling permits or have it inspected. Might have been the same with plumbing. One company jnstalled over halve a million dollars in water & air pollution systems without a permit.
AC\DC
Senior Member
- Location
- Florence,Oregon,Lane
- Occupation
- EC
Thanks kinda cool-
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
- Occupation
- EC
Some places could install an entire line of production equipment, discover it isn't working for the bean counters for various reasons and remove the line before any inspection ever occurred. Some will do such things just to see if an idea will work or not. If it does work there possibly could be further expansion to that idea or even additional production lines built or even take the idea to other locations and put a line there.