Pole barn on residential property

[nizak]

I’m being told by an inspector the following.
(1)- An emergency disconnect is required on a pole barn ( non dwelling unit 200’ from the house) that’s located on a residential property and supplied from the POCO with its own meter .
(2)- AN exterior disconnect is required on the pole barn mentioned above. Just a disconnect.

I’m disputing (1) because it’s not a dwelling unit.
I’m disputing (2) because it has a main breaker panel immediately inside the structure.

An I incorrect on one or both of these.
Thanks

 

[augie47]

IMO, you are correct in both cases barring any local requirement.

 

[infinity]

I agree too. The disconnecting means can be inside where the service conductors enter the structure and is not required to be outside. Since this is not a dwelling 230.85 does not apply.

230.85 Emergency Disconnects.
For one- and two-family dwelling units, all service conductors shall terminate in disconnecting means having a short-circuit current rating equal to or greater than the available fault current, installed in a readily accessible outdoor location. If more than one disconnect is provided, they shall be grouped. Each disconnect shall be one of the following:

 

[ramsy]

I’m disputing (1) because it’s not a dwelling unit.
I’m disputing (2) because it has a main breaker panel immediately inside the structure.

In my area local AHJ's anticipate occupancy, especially for garages, basements, & makeshift sheds

Seen attics converted to rentals using fold-up ladder access, no plumbing, extension-cord wiring, 130F in summer, and ready to go up in flames.

In my area local ordinance forces new-work code on existing receptacles, if within 6ft of remodel sinks.

 

[nizak]

In my area local AHJ's anticipate occupancy, especially for garages, basements, & makeshift sheds

Seen attics converted to rentals using fold-up ladder access, no plumbing, extension-cord wiring, 130F in summer, and ready to go up in flames.

In my area local ordinance forces new-work code on existing receptacles, if within 6ft of remodel sinks.

Anticipating what could happen shouldn’t be a part of code enforcement.
Where will it stop?

 

[ramsy]

Where will it stop?

When housing becomes affordable, people may stop renting out other spaces.

Home owners in my neighborhood convert outside hose bibs to college-student showers, and throw plywood over extension cords powering the sheds.

It's a beautiful arrangement. Renters dump their porta potty into street gutters, and have no need to enter the home.

 

[ptonsparky]

When housing becomes affordable, people may stop renting out other spaces.

Home owners in my neighborhood convert outside hose bibs to college-student showers, and throw plywood over extension cords powering the sheds.

It's a beautiful arrangement. Renters dump their porta potty into street gutters, and have no need to enter the home.

Th more you comment about California, the more I’m glad… “Nebraska, It’s not for everyone.”

Maybe it s just the LA basin

 

[ramsy]

Maybe it s just the LA basin

Just about every major city has housing issues, with street encampments moderated by the weather.

Its the dry climate, and developments build on-top of disaster areas, which make CA famous for seasonal fires, on-top of landslide casualties.

Only those who lived here long enough, know the areas to avoid. People moving into the area don't have a chance.