branch motor circuits to “torque motors” sized per locked rotor current?

'Torque motors' are rather different than most electric motors. They are specifically designed to be used at low or zero speed, and to maintain torque at zero speed (locked rotor) for indefinite periods of time.

They are essentially designed for locked rotor application.

As I recall, article 430 specifically mentions torque motors, and has specific requirements for their protection.

Don't think of this as 'going beyond code requirements for a normal motor'. Crack the book and follow the requirements for torque motors.

Depending on the specific design of the torque motor, you might get much better efficiency using a VFD, but this becomes a significant engineering project for what is probably a small motor designed to be used at 60Hz.

Edited to add: I see that 'torque motors' were not mentioned in the original post, but rather by the original poster later in the thread. My comments were directed to the use of motors designed for locked application, not ordinary motors that get locked up.

Yes; as stated by delta force, NEC 430.6(B) specifically requires the conductors for torque motors to be rated for locked rotor current as prescribed on the motor nameplate. (installation is based on the 2017 code cycle)


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'Torque motors' are rather different than most electric motors. They are specifically designed to be used at low or zero speed, and to maintain torque at zero speed (locked rotor) for indefinite periods of time.

They are essentially designed for locked rotor application.

As I recall, article 430 specifically mentions torque motors, and has specific requirements for their protection.

Don't think of this as 'going beyond code requirements for a normal motor'. Crack the book and follow the requirements for torque motors.

Depending on the specific design of the torque motor, you might get much better efficiency using a VFD, but this becomes a significant engineering project for what is probably a small motor designed to be used at 60Hz.

Edited to add: I see that 'torque motors' were not mentioned in the original post, but rather by the original poster later in the thread. My comments were directed to the use of motors designed for locked application, not ordinary motors that get locked up.

“Torque motors” are mentioned in the subject line


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It makes no difference what the NEC says, as long as the engineer's request is greater than the minimum.
A VFD would need to be sized to the torque motor's current. The circuit would need to be sized to the input current of the VFD.
Without knowing the motor size and VFD size we cannot say which would be less.

The engineer wants to go with what the NEC says


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But the OP appeared to be you were questioning if the engineer could require larger than code minimums. I went in the wrong direction.

I can see that interpretation as well. Finding the right balance between NEC and engineering can be tricky. With this client it comes down to ‘what is cheapest’.


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