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1 portable generator to feed 2 200 Amp panels with generator interlocks.

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Mr. Serious

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Oklahoma, USA
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Electrical Contractor
That last comment seems to confirm that ruxton.stanislaw is indeed only an AI, or at least that a real human didn't spend more than a few seconds editing the AI generated responses.
It is like the kits that you see at Costco every now and then.
Unless you can provide a model number or a link, I'm calling BS on this one. I don't think 4-wire interlock kits exist.

(e.g. NN A or NNN A)
is totally superfluous and only serves to cause confusion.

The AI's first long comment contained some nuggets of good information mixed in with some fabrications. I will come back after I have drawn a diagram, and post what I think is the real answer.
 

LarryFine

Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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Henrico County, VA
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Electrical Contractor
I messaged him on 4/18 and asked whether he was real or AI. This is his response:

I didn't know anybody was reading.
....r ...u...a...bot.....2 ??
OK, go away bot! I got this.

I am pure flesh and blood. Nothing fake about me....well...
My wife says I don't have a "lick of sense"!
I manage to keep her around anyway 'cause she's a good cook. Red beans and cornbread, biscuits and gravy, few cookies and occasionally a pie.
I've only been married just once and I'll never do it again!!

Did I mention that I have been married just once.....to the same sweet lady for______years!

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It's fun most of the time until she says somebodys gotta mow and trim the weeds so I said yeah gohead.

I taught high school for several years, boy was that an experience but I made it out safely.
I think the students taught me a few things, too. Now, I know why teachers need summers off.

And proud that 2 or 3 of my students got their journeyman's license and they are now master electricians.
Did a gig as a city electrical inspector several years until I found out teaching was a whole lot safer and easier. Today, I am the go-to guy for all my electricians friends that need help with the NEC and advice just about what ever they need for any given job. I like it. So do they, it's usually free. I think that's why they call me often.

Taught electrical Code prep classes for 20 something years and continuing ED license renewal class for 20 years. Now, I've got a real job. I have private tutoring classes here at my original electrical shop out on our land here in the great state of Texas.

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Thanks for reading.
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NoahsArc

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Illinois
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Residential EC
I messaged him on 4/18 and asked whether he was real or AI. This is his response:
@LarryFine Oh TX (who also made non-human posts) had its human handler change its name.
That's the most AI reply ever.
Captcha needs to be improved I guess.
Not sure what the point of this game is. Must be a really bored guy.
 

Mr. Serious

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Oklahoma, USA
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Electrical Contractor
User ruxton.stanislaw, who may or may not be an AI, wrote reply #8. He mentioned 4-wire interlock kits, which I don't think exist. He said the 2023 code requires them, which I think is a complete fabrication.

But this talk about 4-wire transfer switches got me thinking, if you needed to use a single generator to back up two electrical services, and you already did the load calculation to make sure the generator could handle the load, couldn't you do something like this?
2-services.png
(I edited the photo to add the neutral on the right side of the generator - somehow I forgot it in the original drawing.)
Here I have two regular single-phase services, with a 4-pole transfer switch on one and a 2-pole on the other one. Both transfer switches would be controlled together to switch at the same time when there is a power loss. There is no parallel path for neutral/ground current under normal operating conditions. What I don't like about it is that service #1 relies on the path through the neutral and ground poles of its 4-pole transfer switch for its neutral/ground bond. Also, it may be more complicated and expensive than just installing two generators.

Anyway, I thought that using a single generator for two services was discussed recently, but I looked and didn't find that topic. Instead, I found this old one from 2012: Generator feeding 2 panels. In reply number 3, a code section 445.19 is quoted, which would seem to prohibit this installation, but in the 2020 code that section no longer exists.
 
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