12 volt lighting near a hot tub

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Does anybody know how far 12 Volt lighting needs to be away from the hot tub. We are using the 2014 code book
 
The 12 volt lightning is for LED post cap lights on a deck, there’s 18 post lights, 3 are closer than 5’, I thought under 15 volts you could be closer than the standard 5’, each light is less than 1 watt.
 
I doubt your light meets this criteria

690.22(B)(6) Low-Voltage Luminaires. Listed low-voltage luminaires
not requiring grounding, not exceeding the lowvoltage
contact limit, and supplied by listed transformers or
power supplies that comply with 680.23(A)(2) shall be permitted
to be located less than 1.5 m (5 ft) from the inside
walls of the pool.
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Thanks for the code article Dennis, in the 2014 it’s located at article 680.23 b6. I guess that’s the article that I need interpreted.
1- these lights don’t require grounding.
- there is no ground.
2- they don’t exceed the contact rating.
- contact rating of the transformer they powered from ???
3- supplied by listed transformers.
- what list?? The transformer is listed for this luminaire.
 
retirede said:
I was under the impression that it was required for lights within 5’. But I wouldn’t bet good money on it!
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You may be right as I re-read the code section. I can't find anything else for low voltage lighting in 680 for pools or spas. I use that code section [680.22(B)(6)] for lights IN a pool/spa but never noticed or had to apply it to "near" a pool/spa.
 
2014 NEC 411.5(B):

(B) Pools, Spas, Fountains, and Similar Locations.


Lighting systems shall be installed not less than 3 m (10 ft) horizontally from the nearest edge of the water, unless permitted by Article 680
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680.22(B)(6):

(6)Low-Voltage Luminaires.

Listed low-voltage luminaires not requiring grounding, not exceeding the low-voltage contact limit, and supplied by listed transformers or power supplies that comply with 680.23(A)(2) shall be permitted to be located less than 1.5 m (5 ft) from the inside walls of the pool.
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My take on it is if it isn't listed for pool/spa use, it probably must be kept 10 feet away. If the luminaire doesn't meet all conditions mentioned in (B)(6) there could be situations where you can be as close as 5 feet, but otherwise 680.23(A)(2) includes underwater type luminaires, which last I knew would be zero distance.
 
kwired said:
2014 NEC 411.5(B):



680.22(B)(6):



My take on it is if it isn't listed for pool/spa use, it probably must be kept 10 feet away. If the luminaire doesn't meet all conditions mentioned in (B)(6) there could be situations where you can be as close as 5 feet, but otherwise 680.23(A)(2) includes underwater type luminaires, which last I knew would be zero distance.
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Agreed
 
Thanks for all the help. After reading all the specs on the transformer it says it’s for use with submersible fixtures, nothing about being pool & spa type. Does have built in short circuit, overload & surge protection. Think I’m gonna let the inspector make the call before removing the questionable fixtures.
 
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