What hasn't?
2-gang single receptacle plates/configuration
- Thread starter Kevin W Holland
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Do you have a code reference?
Kevin W Holland
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- Naples-Bonita Springs, FL
No, you cannot connect two phase conductors with a potential of 240 volts to a duplex receptacle rated for only 125 volts; doing so is extremely dangerous and violates electrical safety codes as the receptacle is not designed to handle such a high voltage, potentially causing damage, overheating, or electrical shock.
electrofelon
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- Cherry Valley NY, Seattle, WA
No more listening to the lowes guy mkay?
- Location
- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Sorry but what you're saying is incorrect. A duplex is two receptacles each one is 120 volts between hot and neutral. There is no overheating, high voltage or anything else out of the ordinary.
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor
So what is the reason for 210.7?
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- Illinois
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- retired electrician
Code section please?
The UL Product Guide Information for "Receptacles for Plugs and Attachment Plugs (RTRT) says:
Kevin W Holland
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- Naples-Bonita Springs, FL
I stand corrected. Apparently I've been misled. For years! Kudos to you guys for setting me on a straight and narrow path 
Kevin W Holland
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- Naples-Bonita Springs, FL
What would be the most efficient, cost effective way to provide a separate 20A, 120V cct/recep for DW-Disp typ installs? (1) 20A duplex split-wired using 12-3 NM MWBC along w/(1) 2P20A AFCI/GFCI cct brkr? or (2) 20A single receps in 2G box w/(2) sep 12-2 NM cables to (2) 1P20A AFCI/GFCI brkrs?
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
- Location
- Henrico County, VA
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor
That's why we're here.Kudos to you guys for setting me on a straight and narrow path
We eventually form a consensus.
I would do it as shown in post #12, less parts and expense
electrofelon
Senior Member
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- Cherry Valley NY, Seattle, WA
Come on this form and you will realize you were told a lot of bs, it certainly happened to me too.I stand corrected. Apparently I've been misled. For years! Kudos to you guys for setting me on a straight and narrow path
electrofelon
Senior Member
- Location
- Cherry Valley NY, Seattle, WA
Assuming both of these need afci and gfci, you would need to have a separate neutral for each so either 2 12/2's or 12-4 cable
Eddie702
Licensed Electrician
- Location
- Western Massachusetts
- Occupation
- Electrician
Two circuits on 1 duplex has always been allowed. What has changed in the past is that it must be a two pole breaker. Maybe a handle tie on 2 singles is allowed
winnie
Senior Member
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- Springfield, MA, USA
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- Electric motor research
On the point of the receptacle only being rated for 120V, not 240V:
A normal NEMA 5-15 receptacle has a configuration associated with 120V operation. This configuration says nothing about the actual voltage handling capability of the components; all it tells you is that the _shape_ of the receptacle is intended for use on 120V circuits.
The actual voltage rating of a plug or receptacle is often difficult to ferret out. In fact at the moment I cannot find any datasheet and I'm hoping someone else can locate a reference. But as I recall, for at least one manufacturer, all of their locking devices were built with a 600V rating. It would not surprise me if the actual voltage rating of a normal 120V duplex receptacle is 240 or 300V or higher.
-Jonathan
A normal NEMA 5-15 receptacle has a configuration associated with 120V operation. This configuration says nothing about the actual voltage handling capability of the components; all it tells you is that the _shape_ of the receptacle is intended for use on 120V circuits.
The actual voltage rating of a plug or receptacle is often difficult to ferret out. In fact at the moment I cannot find any datasheet and I'm hoping someone else can locate a reference. But as I recall, for at least one manufacturer, all of their locking devices were built with a 600V rating. It would not surprise me if the actual voltage rating of a normal 120V duplex receptacle is 240 or 300V or higher.
-Jonathan
kwired
Electron manager
- Location
- NE Nebraska
- Occupation
- EC
Even supply house employees often have little idea what is code.
Customized/not so common plates are maybe going to be harder to get from big box than from a supply house. Either one of them may have somewhat extended lead time if it is not a common stock item from distribution center or manufacturer.
I've been waiting for like two maybe three weeks for a simple four gang stainless switch plate that I thought worst case the supply house may simply transfer from another one of their locations. Didn't think that configuration would be that rare that nobody would have it.