2005 and In Use covers

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I haven`t read all of the proposals for 2005 but it was brought up to me today,that potentially wet locations will require use of in use covers.Does this mean that receptacles in a residential garage will require in use covers as well as gfci protection ;)
 
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My understanding is that wet locations already require while in use covers and damp locations do not. You have to look at the NEC definition of a wet location. Garage is not wet location, front porch is not a wet location. Uncovered side of the building (where the HVAC compressors are placed) is a wet location.

If your saying that there is a proposal to change this then thats news. 2005 edition is out so are you asking about a proposal for 2008?

Related question, aren't all the convenience outlets mounted in light poles (use in every city for holiday lights) now required to be while in use? Does anyone make such a pole?
 
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Tis is the language from the 2002 the 05 strikes the word outdoors.

406.8
(B) Wet Locations.
(1) 15- and 20-Ampere Outdoor Receptacles. 15- and 20-ampere, 125- and 250-volt receptacles installed ( )in a wet location shall have an enclosure that is weatherproof whether or not the attachment plug cap is inserted.

Charlie
 
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I personally haven`t read it but our estimator said he got an email from mike holt in regards to this matter.Hope he saved it and I will read it monday.I was just asking if anyone has heard anything in regards to this.We probably won`t adapt the 2005 for awhile.It took until March 2003 for our area to adopt the 2002 :eek:
 
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You can read it here.

But here is the text,
The word "outdoors" was deleted from this rule. The effect? All 15 and 20A 125V and 250V receptacles installed in a wet location (indoor or outdoor) must be within an enclosure that is weatherproof when an attachment plug is inserted.
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Roger

[ February 05, 2005, 09:43 AM: Message edited by: roger ]
 
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Originally posted by allenwayne:
Does this mean that receptacles in a residential garage will require in use covers as well as gfci protection :)

You might have written this as a joke, but my mechanic friend has actually devoted a bay of his attached garage to serving as a car washing bay, complete with a rotating wand similar to commercial operations. :)

He wanted to, and installed, in-use covers for the entire area. He actually made it NEC-2005 legal with minimal advice, I was impressed.

But I would say that if the area is drywalled, then the drywall won't stand up to a NEC-defined wet location anymore than receptacles would. The area would need to be defined by it's nature or by the plans as a car-washing area to need to comply. Otherwise, it's a damp location, even if they end up washing their car in there, IMO.

A sink is not counterspace, but I can physically throw a toaster in it to make toast. So, countertops are GFCI protected, but not required to have damp covers. :D

[ February 05, 2005, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
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Aw is fine or allen or allenwayne,just glad to be apart of this informative website :D
 
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We have not been using bubble covers and passing without them in Hilsborough county.All we have is standard 2 foot overhang.These are office buildings not private homes,if that changes anything.I am still bit confused on the requirement.If there is nothing pluged in would they be needed ?
 
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The required use of in use covers is one of those gray areas that the NEC has minimal definition of .The only clarity there is ,is if there is to be something left plugged in.Potentially wet areas ????As it turns out is up to the discretion of the AHJ.Something came up last week on a county job,a 2 pole disconnect switch for a well.We installed a standard single device w.p. cover and were tagged.Not U.L. listed for this application,AHJ wanted an in use cover.I was confused these covers have a K.O. in the cover for a switch but as it turns out are not U.L. listed for a switch :confused:
 
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