2005 Code Change Question

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bphgravity

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The state of Florida will be adopting the 2005 NEC on December 8th. I have two questions for those already working under and with the 2005

The typical single family dwelling in this area has fairly small bathrooms. In many cases, the vanity and/or over the basin lighting will be located within 3' of the shower or bathtub. Most of the time, these are typical open lamp fixtures and are definitely not listed for a damp or wet location. How has this new requirement in 410.4(D) affected your installations?

680.26(C) requires the equipotential grid to extend under paved walking surfaces for 3 ft. Our jurisdiction handles over 1,000 pools a year. In many cases, lot size restricts how far the pool can be built from the existing home. In many cases, the pool ends up within 3' of an EXISTING paved walking surface that becomes apart of the pool deck. How would compliance with this section be handled with this issue. Obviously, the other 3 sides of the pool can easily have the grid extended out the 3' feet, but what about the side facing the existing structure.
 
bphgravity said:
In many cases, the pool ends up within 3' of an EXISTING paved walking surface that becomes apart of the pool deck. How would compliance with this section be handled with this issue.

IMO they can break it up and reinstall it with a grid,

They can pour another pad on top of the existing with the grid.

They can permanently cover the surface with a non-conductive material. (wood deck)

I don't see any other ways.

Edit my stuttering.
 
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iwire said:
I don't see any other ways.
I see one other. Since pools are such a big business in that area, the state local authorities can issue a code ammendment. The question is, to what extend is this requirement a safety concern, and will a government agency take an action that is adverse to safety?

I take it back. I don't see another one. ;)
 
Are you sure that those fixtures are not listed for a damp location? As you've stated they would need to be if within 3' of the tub or shower.
 
Are these style bathroom fixtures typically listed for damp locations?

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A open lamp fluorescent strip is typically listed for wet locations so I can't see why that would not be as well but I certainly don't know that.
 
bphgravity said:
Are these style bathroom fixtures typically listed for damp locations?

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That's why I asked the question. I would think that they would be listed as damp. Aren't most fixtures listed as damp location?
 
Cavie,
The 2006 Glitch Code Amendments includes all the next text the Florida Building Commission approved from proposals and comments. If you read the changes made to Chapter 35 - References, you will see that 2002 has been deleted and replaced with 2005 under the NFPA titles..

You will also see where the new section requiring bonding of metal studs will now be required in Chapter 27 of the FBC and Chapter 33 of the FBC-R.
 
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