2005 Nec on CD

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celtic said:
Does that make it right?
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I think so. Is it right that I paid 100 bucks for the CD and I have to sit and wait for it to get up to speed every time that I want to use it? It's a very slow process that doesn't have to be. If the NFPA has piracy issues I have no problem with them trying to thwart them but the end user spending a hundred bucks shouldn't be the one getting short changed with an inferior product.
 
celtic said:
Regardless of where/how that copy was obtained ?
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If something is a law you shouldn't have to pay to read it. Up until recently the NEC wasn't available to read for free.
 
In criminal law it is said ignorance is no excuse.But the laws are available for free to all.Why should the NEC be any different.Just because this is a business.Businesses have to conform to criminal law and IMO the rules of an install should be accesable.The rules that have been adopted that we are required to follow.If a jurisdiction wants ,no requires us to follow a certain criteria then the requirements of that criteria should be made available for free.
 
But the laws are available for free to all.Why should the NEC be any different.J
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While they are all available to read for free, book or CD copies of state and federal laws are very expensive.
If a jurisdiction wants ,no requires us to follow a certain criteria then the requirements of that criteria should be made available for free.
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So you expect the state to provide you with a free copy of all of its laws?
Don
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
So you expect the state to provide you with a free copy of all of its laws?
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I'd be happy to just know what the laws are in regards to driving/vehicles....no notice of any changes, just notices that you need to renew...and don't forget to send a check :D
 
infinity said:
Is it right that I paid 100 bucks for the CD and I have to sit and wait for it to get up to speed every time that I want to use it? ....the end user spending a hundred bucks shouldn't be the one getting short changed with an inferior product.
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Maybe they followed the Bill Gates theory on software...program it, market it, sell it, wait for the bugs to be reported on it....lather, rinse, repeat.
 
Don not sure of your state but here we can access the entire state statutes for no cost.If one has no internet access there are libraries that give free access to the internet.So IMO that is free access for all that have to follow the rules set down.
 
allenwayne,
Don not sure of your state but here we can access the entire state statutes for no cost.
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Yes free access is required, but that is not the same as getting a free copy either on paper or on a CD. Every unit of government that has adopted any building code will have a copy that you can look at. You would have to go to city hall or somewhere like that, but that is the free access that is required. It doesn't have to be online and they don't have to let you take the copy home.
Don
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
While they are all available to read for free, book or CD copies of state and federal laws are very expensive.

So you expect the state to provide you with a free copy of all of its laws?
Don
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Fee no , but at a close to real cost for a copy.A cd blank cost about 40 cents to normal customers.When we are talking about a hard copy i can understand it costing $30 to $100 but to make a CD is under $1.

They had something in mind when they started this book years ago.Its title should be a clue (NATIONAL electric code).They got what they wanted and did not plan the financing part very good.They could have offered its use to states that pay before they adopt it as law.They have plenty of help that works for free LOL.This was a great scam untill the computer age.Any attempts to stop copying are quickly solved.Who is the guilty one for stealing copywrite material ? Perhaps the state or town that adopted it.As an electrician that must follow it to the letter its only fair i get an easy to use and understandable copy.Some like Mike Holt have copywrite material and they deserve payed.Still have my set of tapes from Mike that i bought almost 10 years ago .He sells training not laws.
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
allenwayne,

Yes free access is required, but that is not the same as getting a free copy either on paper or on a CD. Every unit of government that has adopted any building code will have a copy that you can look at. You would have to go to city hall or somewhere like that, but that is the free access that is required. It doesn't have to be online and they don't have to let you take the copy home.
Don
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Its high time that laws are available on internet.Just how would you suggest one use that so called free copy ? Go there every day till we remember all of it ?

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?Tab=statutes&submenu=-1&CFID=3121077&CFTOKEN=14702136
 
don_resqcapt19 said:
allenwayne,

Yes free access is required, but that is not the same as getting a free copy either on paper or on a CD. Every unit of government that has adopted any building code will have a copy that you can look at. You would have to go to city hall or somewhere like that, but that is the free access that is required. It doesn't have to be online and they don't have to let you take the copy home.
Don
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How does there letting me look at there copy differ from my letting others look at my copy ?
 
infinity said:
As far as I know you can not load the 2005 NEC Codebook onto your computer.
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The NEC can be purchased in PDF format from the NFPA directly for $73. You can select book or PDF from the "Add to Cart" box in the link.

Since it's a PDF, I would have assumed it could be moved from machine to machine, and that they would allow it to be downloaded directly from the site, but I'm not sure. When I added it to my "cart", I saw this at the bottom:

Your order includes an NFPA protected PDF file.
Please be aware that Adobe? Reader? 6.0.1 or higher (Windows 2000 and later or Mac OS 10 and later) is required to open an NFPA protected PDF file...
Please Note: The Protected PDF files cannot be emailed to another computer, so the person who will be using the document needs to be the person to download the file.
Please use our Download Test Center to be sure you can view NFPA protected PDF files.
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I didn't follow through with the transaction, so I can't be sure of anything. It seems that it can't be shared when you get it on CD, but I don't know how they would control you physically copying into your hard drive from the CD.
 
georgestolz said:
The NEC can be purchased in PDF format from the NFPA directly for $73. You can select book or PDF from the "Add to Cart" box in the link.

Since it's a PDF, I would have assumed it could be moved from machine to machine, and that they would allow it to be downloaded directly from the site, but I'm not sure. When I added it to my "cart", I saw this at the bottom:



I didn't follow through with the transaction, so I can't be sure of anything. It seems that it can't be shared when you get it on CD, but I don't know how they would control you physically copying into your hard drive from the CD.
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Well my copy works just fine so i guess it can go from compter to computer
 
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